US pilots soon to report their skills?

the legislation for the draft is always on the shelf, right next to the
plans to invade canada.

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

I have serious doubts about someone's sanity if they honestly think that
there is going to be a draft soon. Talk about radical

There is legislation for a draft, sponsored by (Democratic)
Congressman Charles Rangell. It has a very few (Democratic)
co-sponsors.

Recently the Republicans tried to bring the bill up for a vote, so as
to put paid to the (Democratic) rumors that Bush would bring back the
draft in a second term.

The Democrats accused the Republicans of playing politics.

Well, so it goes, in Disney World on the Potomac.

Just think about this for a minute: if there were a draft, who would
train the draftees? The entire (volunteer) U.S. Army would have to
stand down, be retrained, and then dispatched to build and staff the
training centers. It would take a year, minimum, and in the meantime
we would have no army for any other purpose.

This rumor has been very popular on campus for two years now. As soon
as the Good People realized that we were going to war in Iraq, they
began promising their students that they would soon be drafted. That
they were proved liars in 2002 hasn't stopped them from retreading the
same lies in 2004.


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org

I have serious doubts about someone's sanity if they honestly think that
there is going to be a draft soon. Talk about radical

There is legislation for a draft, sponsored by (Democratic)
Congressman Charles Rangell. It has a very few (Democratic)
co-sponsors.

Recently the Republicans tried to bring the bill up for a vote, so as
to put paid to the (Democratic) rumors that Bush would bring back the
draft in a second term.

The Democrats accused the Republicans of playing politics.

Well, so it goes, in Disney World on the Potomac.

Just think about this for a minute: if there were a draft, who would
train the draftees? The entire (volunteer) U.S. Army would have to
stand down, be retrained, and then dispatched to build and staff the
training centers. It would take a year, minimum, and in the meantime
we would have no army for any other purpose.

This rumor has been very popular on campus for two years now. As soon
as the Good People realized that we were going to war in Iraq, they
began promising their students that they would soon be drafted. That
they were proved liars in 2002 hasn't stopped them from retreading the
same lies in 2004.


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org

I have serious doubts about someone's sanity if they honestly think that
there is going to be a draft soon. Talk about radical

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...

can you cook? can you pilot an aircraft? are you into computers?

you're the (wo)man! hmm, this one is only for (US-) citizens, methinks.
This time the foreigners come better off.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/9/12032/9687

---snip
The proposed changes discussed in this meeting include:

*(...) This non-combat skills draft would induct men and women ages 18
to 34.
(...)
* Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young
person would be forced to send in a "self-declaration"--like an IRS
form--of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list o f several
hundred occupations like the Air Force Specialty Code with Skills
Identifier. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine
would apply to all non-registrants.
---snap

#m

--
Somehow, some way, the Left trash talks "multi-national corporations" and
"big corporations" as if they were messengers of evil, when, in fact,
corporations represent the ultimate, perfect expression of communal
ownership of capital. (Jay Honeck in r.a.p.)

No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without a
draft. John Kerry has frequently accused the Bush administration of having a
secret plan to reinstate the draft. There is no question that, if elected,
Kerry would push for a draft to 'resolve the current crisis.' He would blame
it on the Republicans, of course. The only bill currently before Congress to
reinstate the draft is sponsored by Democrats. Democrats have a long history
of proposing such measures, including drafts for 'peaceful' purposes such as
the Peace Corps. This is in keeping with the historical and philosophical
origins of the Democratic Party, which was founded to protect the rights of
slave owners and to represent slave states. After all, if everyone is the
slave of the US government (which they frequently allege), then what is
wrong with private ownership of humans? This philosophical view is the
foundation for Democratic positions on everything from trade unions to the
right to bear arms to taxation, and it is why Democratic 'intellectuals' are
basically aristocratic elitists.

C J Campbell wrote:
No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without a
draft.

Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a
republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't
do anything to stop the already existing draft.

Just so it may shed some light. The proposed draft bill by Charles Rangal(D)
NY failed miserably in the house last week by a vote of 402-2. There will be
no draft, it was just a bunch of lefties trying to make a mountain out of a
mole hill. My ex wife even got the email from the leftist group saying Bush
was going to draft kids! My son asked me about it and then said , well I
want to go to college , but I will be a marine first if I have to, if not
I'll get a degree and then be a marine officer. Really proud of that young
man,....no chicken ****s in the Dixon Clan. Wish this country had alot more
young people like him.

Semper Fi,
Patrick


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
C J Campbell wrote:
No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln
during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without
a
draft.

Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a
republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't
do anything to stop the already existing draft.

Just so it may shed some light. The proposed draft bill by Charles Rangal(D)
NY failed miserably in the house last week by a vote of 402-2. There will be
no draft, it was just a bunch of lefties trying to make a mountain out of a
mole hill. My ex wife even got the email from the leftist group saying Bush
was going to draft kids! My son asked me about it and then said , well I
want to go to college , but I will be a marine first if I have to, if not
I'll get a degree and then be a marine officer. Really proud of that young
man,....no chicken ****s in the Dixon Clan. Wish this country had alot more
young people like him.

Semper Fi,
Patrick


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
C J Campbell wrote:
No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln
during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without
a
draft.

Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a
republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't
do anything to stop the already existing draft.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
C J Campbell wrote:
No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln
during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war without
a
draft.

Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a
republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't
do anything to stop the already existing draft.

From
http://college.hmco.com/history/read...nscription.htm
With the draft so controversial, Congress came under increased pressure
either to reform it or to eliminate it. Supported by many conservatives,
Gen. Lewis B. Hershey, the director of Selective Service since 1941, blocked
any changes until 1969, including the 1967 recommendations for equity and
national uniformity from a presidential commission headed by former
assistant attorney general Burke Marshall. President Richard M. Nixon, after
criticizing the draft in his 1968 campaign, ended new occupational and
dependency deferments, instituted an annual draft lottery among
eighteen-year-olds (beginning in December 1969), removed General Hershey,
and appointed a commission, headed by former secretary of defense Thomas
Gates, which in 1970 recommended an All-Volunteer Armed Force (avf) with a
stand-by draft for emergency use.

Nixon reduced draft calls while gradually withdrawing U.S. troops, but his
dispatch of American units across the border into Cambodia in 1970 led to
massive public protests. Only reluctantly did Congress in 1971 extend the
draft for two more years. The lawmakers also eliminated student deferments
and voted a massive ($2.4 billion) pay increase for the lower ranks in order
to achieve an avf by mid-1973. During the 1972 election campaign, Nixon cut
draft calls to 50,000 and stopped forcing draftees to go to Vietnam. On
January 27, 1973, the day a cease-fire was announced, the administration
stopped drafting, six months before induction authority expired on July 1,
1973.

Compulsory draft registration, which President Gerald Ford suspended in
1975, was resumed in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter in reaction to the
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. President Ronald Reagan extended it in 1982
and prosecuted a few of those who refused to register (estimated at 500,000
between 1980 and 1984)

Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held
over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not
read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st. I
have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he
could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To
intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to
fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I
refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just DUMBBBBBB!
HAHA

Patrick

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...
C J Campbell wrote:
No Republican President has instituted a draft since Abraham Lincoln
during
the Civil War. Democrats, however, cannot imagine fighting a war
without
a
draft.

Well, it seems that during most of our shooting wars we haven't had a
republican president. And during the one we did have one, he didn't
do anything to stop the already existing draft.

From

http://college.hmco.com/history/read...nscription.htm
With the draft so controversial, Congress came under increased pressure
either to reform it or to eliminate it. Supported by many conservatives,
Gen. Lewis B. Hershey, the director of Selective Service since 1941,
blocked
any changes until 1969, including the 1967 recommendations for equity and
national uniformity from a presidential commission headed by former
assistant attorney general Burke Marshall. President Richard M. Nixon,
after
criticizing the draft in his 1968 campaign, ended new occupational and
dependency deferments, instituted an annual draft lottery among
eighteen-year-olds (beginning in December 1969), removed General Hershey,
and appointed a commission, headed by former secretary of defense Thomas
Gates, which in 1970 recommended an All-Volunteer Armed Force (avf) with a
stand-by draft for emergency use.

Nixon reduced draft calls while gradually withdrawing U.S. troops, but his
dispatch of American units across the border into Cambodia in 1970 led to
massive public protests. Only reluctantly did Congress in 1971 extend the
draft for two more years. The lawmakers also eliminated student deferments
and voted a massive ($2.4 billion) pay increase for the lower ranks in
order
to achieve an avf by mid-1973. During the 1972 election campaign, Nixon
cut
draft calls to 50,000 and stopped forcing draftees to go to Vietnam. On
January 27, 1973, the day a cease-fire was announced, the administration
stopped drafting, six months before induction authority expired on July 1,
1973.

Compulsory draft registration, which President Gerald Ford suspended in
1975, was resumed in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter in reaction to the
Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. President Ronald Reagan extended it in
1982
and prosecuted a few of those who refused to register (estimated at
500,000
between 1980 and 1984)

"W P Dixon" wrote in message
...
Evidently the person doing the complaining about reservists and being held
over on active duty has 1. Never served in the US military, or 2. Did not
read that piece of paper when they signed up. I would guess it is the 1st.
I
have a nephew that was held into active duty serving in Iraq. We wish he
could be home now, but he joined the Army....not the campfire girls. To
intend on joining the US armed forces and then say well "Why do I have to
fight" is kind of like saying "I intend on going to Disney World , but I
refuse to listen to "It's A Small World" while I am there." Just
DUMBBBBBB!
HAHA

Hey! I go to Disneyland and absolutely refuse to listen to "It's A Small
World!" That thing counts as cruel and unusual.