Who has started implementing the TSA rule?

Dave.. the specific wording required for the log book was posted on 20
October.
Make the entry and sell them the $5 logbook as part of the intro package.

I think you need to get current?
BT

"David Brooks" wrote in message
...
OK, flight instructors, have you been doing your patriotic duty since
midday
Wednesday? Remember, under the thoroughly amended rule:

1) If a non-citizen, with no pilot certificate, wants to learn to fly, you
tell them that they have to submit to TSA: name, including aliases, their
brand new TSA ID number, a copy of their passport and visa, all the
information needed to get the visa and passport and previous visas and
passports, their country of birth, all current and past countries of
citizenship, their date of birth, dates and location of training, type of
training, fingerprints, address, phone number, addresses for the past 5
years, gender, a $130 fee, and any other information required by TSA. Then
you have to notify TSA about their request and submit a photograph. Then,
and only then, can you let them in your hot air balloon.

2) If a citizen, with no pilot certificate, wants to learn to fly, you
have
to determine and continue to determine they are a citizen, and make a
specifically worded entry in their logbook (which they don't have yet)
referring to 49 CFR 1552.3(h). Everyone knows the wording, right?

Any CFIs want to recount how they have managed their newest students? I
don't expect to hear from anyone who has not done the above - after all,
you'd be admitting to breaking the law.

-- David Brooks
Believe!!!!!

"BTIZ" wrote in message
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"David Brooks" wrote in message
...

2) If a citizen, with no pilot certificate, wants to learn to fly, you
have
to determine and continue to determine they are a citizen, and make a
specifically worded entry in their logbook (which they don't have yet)
referring to 49 CFR 1552.3(h). Everyone knows the wording, right?

Dave.. the specific wording required for the log book was posted on 20
October.
Make the entry and sell them the $5 logbook as part of the intro package.

I think you need to get current?

:-)

I was referring to the logbook they don't have yet, of course.

-- David Brooks
Believe!!!!!

"BTIZ" wrote in message
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Dave.. the specific wording required for the log book was posted on 20
October.
Make the entry and sell them the $5 logbook as part of the intro package.

Are you getting tired of my postings yet? Talk to me about specific
wording...

"TSA interprets the definition of 'flight training' to include only that
training that a candidate could use toward a new airman's certificate or
rating." Note the word "could".

I get my Private in a 172. I decide to fill my logbook with the add-on
endorsements. I go and get tailwheel training and the instructor signs me
off. I go and get high-performance training and the instructor signs me off.
I walk towards a Cardinal... and the TSA jumps up in front. Why?

Because the complex training *could* be used towards my theoretical future
Commercial certificate, that's why. (note 61.129 doesn't say the training
has to be in the context of being enrolled in a commercial pilot course).

-- David Brooks
Believe!!!!!

David Brooks wrote:
OK, flight instructors, have you been doing your patriotic
duty since
midday Wednesday? Remember, under the thoroughly amended
rule:

1) If a non-citizen, with no pilot certificate, wants to
learn to
fly,

What is if the non-citizen have a foreign
glider licence and wan't to make PPL-A
in the staates?