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Old December 15th 04, 01:08 PM
Jay Honeck
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This is great stuff, Jay! THANKS for including us.

No problem. I've learned so much from this group over the years, it seems
only right to give some back....
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 14th 04, 05:17 PM
Corky Scott
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On 13 Dec 2004 08:39:41 -0800, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Bill says that in all of his years there, he never got to see any
aliens.

He says the whole UFO legend began because the Air Force didn't want to
admit that they were sending mylar balloons (then new technology) over
the Soviet Union. When people found the remains of a balloon -- which
looked like sci-fi space suit material -- they denied knowing about
them, which, of course, simply inflamed the curiosity of everyone.


Regretfully, there was more to it than mylar balloons. The Air Force
was using animals in tests, including monkeys, chimps and bears. Some
of the flights involved chimps in pressure suits. They'd subjected
these animals to all kinds of (I'm going to use the adjective
"hideous") experiments including ejection from high altitude, rides in
rocket sleds and much more. These creatures didn't just die, they
died ugly, burned and deformed. Some were found by civilians before
the Air Force personnel could get to them. Guess what a burned and
deformed chimp wearing a space suit in a strange looking capsule looks
like, or looks like to a civilian who did not know what was going on?

This information came from one of those "Discovery" types of programs,
but they showed copies of recently disclosed previously classified
documents that supported the assertions of animal use.

Corky Scott


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Old December 14th 04, 04:22 AM
Bob Fry
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"Jay Honeck" writes:

Bill actually ran Area 51 for a few years, and was instrumental in the
development and deployment of the SR-71


Which was developed in the late 1950s I think, which makes ol' Bill
rather old indeed.
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Old December 14th 04, 12:52 PM
Jay Honeck
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Bill actually ran Area 51 for a few years, and was instrumental in the
development and deployment of the SR-71


Which was developed in the late 1950s I think, which makes ol' Bill
rather old indeed.


Ol' Bill is in his 80s, does 3 flights of stairs just fine, drives around
the country in a brand new Cadillac, and travels everywhere with his girl
friend.

He may be physically old, but he ain't "old"...

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 14th 04, 04:40 AM
Jeff Franks
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Thanks Jay!

This has been a VERY interesting thread. I would have never thought to let
us common folk ask questions for through you. Thanks for thinking of us!

jf


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:Qo6vd.561259$D%.17160@attbi_s51...
Bill Fox, project coordinator for the Lockheed Skunkworks (and the guy who
donated all the unbelievably cool stuff in our "Blackbird Suite") is going
to be visiting us again soon.

Bill actually ran Area 51 for a few years, and was instrumental in the
development and deployment of the SR-71 (and a whole slew of other stuff
that hasn't been declassified yet.) from Kelly Johnson's Lockheed
Skunkworks.

I've made a list of questions to ask him when he gets here, but if you

have
any questions about the Blackbird, the U-2, or any other Lockheed

Skunkworks
stuff, post 'em here and I'll ask him for ya!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old December 14th 04, 05:20 AM
Jon Woellhaf
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Jay,

Please consider publishing a long, long interview with Bill Fox in AOPA
Pilot. The very interesting tidbits you've given us make me want MUCH MORE!

Thanks!

Jon


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Old December 14th 04, 05:23 AM
Jon Woellhaf
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Or better yet, on your web site!

"Jon Woellhaf" wrote in message
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Jay,

Please consider publishing a long, long interview with Bill Fox in AOPA
Pilot. The very interesting tidbits you've given us make me want MUCH

MORE!

Thanks!

Jon




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Old December 14th 04, 12:57 PM
Jay Honeck
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Please consider publishing a long, long interview with Bill Fox in AOPA
Pilot. The very interesting tidbits you've given us make me want MUCH
MORE!


It's funny -- Bill will talk to anyone, anytime, about his experiences --
yet few have heard of him. After he left Iowa City he was driving back to
Charles City to give a talk to a church group about his days at Lockheed.

Here's a guy who has seen and achieved amazing things, and won world-renown
in the "black program" community -- yet he's out talking to churches, for
free. It boggles the mind.

He recently received a prestigious award from the Blackbird community,
normally reserved for pilots. You can read more about it he
http://www.aleinn.com/black_projects/a12_40years.html
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old December 14th 04, 10:00 PM
Morgans
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

You can read more about it he
http://www.aleinn.com/black_projects/a12_40years.html
--
Jay Honeck


Why does anyone use a black background like that page? It is totally
unreadable on my crappy monitor.
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Jim in NC


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Old December 17th 04, 01:14 PM
mike regish
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Sroll over it like you're going to "copy" it. It changes to a white
background with blue lettering.

mike regish

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote

You can read more about it he
http://www.aleinn.com/black_projects/a12_40years.html
--
Jay Honeck


Why does anyone use a black background like that page? It is totally
unreadable on my crappy monitor.
--
Jim in NC




 




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