Laser beams being aimed at airliners?

I think the whole subject and associated hysteria is ridiculous to the point
of being suspicious. Is somebody OTHER than terrorists trying to scare us?

I mean, if I was Joe Terrorist, I wouldn't dink around with lasers that cost
tens of thousands of dollars and really only **** pilots off. I'd use a
semiautomatic or automatic machine gun or three.

Wanna -really- scare Americans? Punch a few bullet holes in the nose or
wing of a jetliner that's landing or taking off. I know a couple of
locations that would be perfect, and escape without detection would be
trivial. (I ain't tellin', Osama!)

All the lasers would accomplish is distraction, which, it may turn out, is
EXACTLY what's happening.

-gatt
PP-ASEL-IA

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:48:13 -0800, "gatt"
wrote in ::

Punch a few bullet holes in the nose or
wing of a jetliner that's landing or taking off. I know a couple of
locations that would be perfect, and escape without detection would be
trivial.

These days, in the metropolitan areas there are microphones on every
traffic-controlled intersection that can be used to triangulate the
report of the weapon to determine its location. Lasers don't make a
sound.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:48:13 -0800, "gatt"
wrote in ::

Punch a few bullet holes in the nose or
wing of a jetliner that's landing or taking off. I know a couple of
locations that would be perfect, and escape without detection would be
trivial.

These days, in the metropolitan areas there are microphones on every
traffic-controlled intersection that can be used to triangulate the
report of the weapon to determine its location. Lasers don't make a
sound.

Cite? Tens of thousands of microphones connected to a central processing
facility? A gunshot going off a mile away from a controlled intersection
won't be heard over the traffic noise in most cases. Not to mention jet
aircraft noise. Response time will be forever.

moo

www.bovinesexclub.com

Dude. You've got to update your current events...

The "Kick Ass Karaoke" is, like, so over!

;-)
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Iowa City, IA
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"Your Aviation Destination"

"gatt" wrote

I know a couple of
locations that would be perfect, and escape without detection would be
trivial. (I ain't tellin', *****
-gatt

Congratulations. You have just won a file on yourself in the FBI's watch
list, with the previous post.
--
Jim in NC

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Cite? Tens of thousands of microphones connected to a central processing
facility? A gunshot going off a mile away from a controlled intersection
won't be heard over the traffic noise in most cases. Not to mention jet
aircraft noise. Response time will be forever.

Fourier analysis?
Admittedly, it would take some rather fast processors.

A system of this type is already in use in some places. It only needs a
few strategically placed mikes, though.
--
Jim in NC

A man has been arrested and charged for the recent laser beam being
aimed into a landing airplane's cockpit in New Jersey.

See:
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey...6903307830.xml

After reading the article, a couple of things are of interest: The
laser is called a "Jasper Laser" and was bought from a company in
Oregon over the internet. The laser was described as cigar sized and
had a range of up to 25,000 feet.

Second, the man in my opinion seems immature. He initially blamed his
7 year old daughter for the incidents. After the initial incident in
which a landing Cessna Citation reported having the laser beamed into
their cockpit while approaching Teterboro at 3,000 feet, a police
helicopter was sent to the likely area to look around. The man, David
Banach, 38, beamed it too. Not a smart move.

The police helicopter responded by targeting the house with it's
floodlight, whereupon local police surrounded the house in large
numbers.

His lawyer denied that there was any willful misconduct, although it's
difficult for me to understand how else one might interpret his
actions. She also criticized the government for prosecuting her
client under the Patriot Act. Think about it for a moment though, who
in his or her right mind would intentionally beam something known to
cause temporary blindness at anyone, let alone the cockpit of a
landing airplane regardless the size?

US District Attorney Christopher J. Christie is quoted as saying:"We
have to send a clear message to the public that there is no harmless
mischief when it comes to airplanes, Mr. Banach's actions as alleged
in the criminal complaint put innocent lives at risk. That is illegal
and unacceptable." I agree with Mr. Christie.

The manufacturer of the laser pointer expressed regret that his
product had been used in such a manner.

Corky Scott

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:48:13 -0800, "gatt"
wrote in ::

Punch a few bullet holes in the nose or
wing of a jetliner that's landing or taking off. I know a couple of
locations that would be perfect, and escape without detection would be
trivial.

These days, in the metropolitan areas there are microphones on every
traffic-controlled intersection that can be used to triangulate the
report of the weapon to determine its location. Lasers don't make a
sound.

And now this from CNN:
http://tinyurl.com/497uv

Of course I'm glad they caught this guy but this part is troubling:

"Federal authorities Tuesday used the Patriot Act to charge a man with
pointing a laser beam at an airplane overhead and temporarily blinding the
pilot and co-pilot......

.....[he] admitted to federal agents that he pointed the light beam at a jet
and a helicopter over his home near Teterboro Airport last week.......

......According to the FBI, the Patriot Act does not describe helicopters as
``mass transportation vehicles.'' As for why Banach was not charged with
some other offense over the helicopter incident, Michael Drewniak, a
spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office, did not immediately return calls
for comment.....

.......But federal officials have said there is no evidence any the current
incidents represent a terrorist plot."


So they don't have anything else about interfering with air traffic besides
the "Patriot" Act?

And why would I believe anyone who claims the "Patriot" Act won't be abused,
just go ahead and renew it?

--
Frank....H

"Frank" wrote in message ...
Larry Dighera wrote:

And now this from CNN:
http://tinyurl.com/497uv

Of course I'm glad they caught this guy but this part is troubling:



So they don't have anything else about interfering with air traffic
besides
the "Patriot" Act?

No. But they are going to throw the book at him and charge him with every
crime that he has violated. Are you suggesting that this dope should not be
prosecuted?

Larry Dighera wrote:


These days, in the metropolitan areas there are microphones on every
traffic-controlled intersection that can be used to triangulate the
report of the weapon to determine its location. Lasers don't make a
sound.

Do have a cite for that "fact"?


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO