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Old January 29th 05, 01:39 AM
Rob Montgomery
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Actually, you can (at least in the Arrow II, the only kind I have direct
experience with). The "Maximum Gear Extension" speed is 150MPH, or about 131
knots. The "Maximum Gear Retraction" speed is at 125MPH, so you'd have to
slow down before you pull the gear up on the missed. It's interesting that
they don't publish a "Maximum Gear Extended" speed, but I wouldn't go more
than an "ooops" over 150MPH.

Then again, you can always save fuel and fly at something other than full
throttle. :-)

-Rob
"Bill J" wrote in message
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You can't fly 130 knots with gear down in an Arrow

Robert M. Gary wrote:

The most important thing for your CFII to teach you on an instrument
approach is how to find the power/prop settings that result in your
approach being at the exact speed you plan for (we plan 90kt in the
Mooney as well as a configuration for 130kts when necessary). All these
power settings would be out the window if you flew with the gear up. I
usually have the student put the gear down at the point of the initial
let down on a non-pre approach and on GS intercept on a pre approach.

-Robert, CFI



gatt wrote:

Hey, all. Haven't shot instrument approaches in a complex aircraft


yet,

and I'm getting ready to so I'm curious:

When you're doing a practice approach in which you know it's going to


be

missed, do you complete/amend/ignore the GUMPS check? I'm guessing


yes,

but I'm curious as to what others do. Finishing up my complex


endorsement

this afternoon, but haven't done any approaches in that plane yet.






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Old January 29th 05, 03:38 AM
Peter R.
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Rob Montgomery wrote:

The "Maximum Gear Extension" speed is 150MPH, or about 131
knots.


Are you saying that you don't lose any speed when you drop the gear at 131
kts?

In the Bonanza, I drop the gear at 155 kts and immediately lose about 25-30
kts due to drag.



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