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Old February 10th 16, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
JS
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In February '96 I had questions about the future of soaring instrumentation.
Had a day off in Montreal, rented a car and drove to Waitsfield. Had coffee in the CAI shop, and talked with them about the glider GPS thing they had developed and tested at Omarama.
My approach was: Why should I let this thing into my cockpit?
Came away convinced it wasn't a horror. Bought their (then) new model 20.
Where would we be without that technology today?
Imagine everyone buys in to new tech, some more reluctantly than others.
The SSA convention would be a good place for technophobes to learn how to embrace new soaring technology.
Jim
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Old February 10th 16, 10:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Why must someone either purchase and install the latest technology
or... be a technophobe?

I can assure you that I've been involved with developing and operating
some of the highest technologies, things that you can't even imagine
but, if I don't want to install some technology that you think is the
cat's meow, I'm a technophobe.

There is some middle ground after all. Some call it "diff'rent strokes".

On 2/10/2016 12:58 PM, JS wrote:
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The SSA convention would be a good place for technophobes to learn how to embrace new soaring technology.
Jim


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Dan, 5J

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Old February 10th 16, 11:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 2/10/2016 3:08 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Why must someone either purchase and install the latest technology or...
be a technophobe?

I can assure you that I've been involved with developing and operating some
of the highest technologies, things that you can't even imagine but, if I
don't want to install some technology that you think is the cat's meow, I'm
a technophobe.

There is some middle ground after all. Some call it "diff'rent strokes".

snip The SSA convention would be a good place for technophobes to learn
how to embrace new soaring technology. Jim


-- Dan, 5J


Dan, you contentious, technophobic, piece of moose...no, wait!!! Once you get
used to "the new normal" ascendant with much of humanity being continuously
on-line, and compulsively texting to the point of having no time for nuanced
communications, you'll be just fine. Embrace your new reality!

Bob - happily cell-phone-less - W.
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Old February 10th 16, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
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On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:42:54 PM UTC-5, SF wrote:
TOPIC: "Racing in the Futu Should We Moderate the Impact of Technology?"

John Godfrey (QT) began competing in gliders in 1984. He was elected to the US Competition Rules Committee in 2008 and has chaired the committee since 2013. In addition he has served as Competition Director for National championships, Scorer for both International and US contests, and US Team Captain for the 2006 WGC.

John's key interest is in increasing participation by making/keeping racing fun and affordable for people like him (i.e., those unlikely to win a National). In addition to presenting a road map for coming technologies and their possible impact, he looks forward to thoughtful and lively interactions with the audience on these issues.

Thursday Feb. 18, 2016 2:30 - 3:15 PM
SSA Convention Greenville SC
www.ssaconvention.org

Flarm on, you flarming Flarmers
SF


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Old February 10th 16, 02:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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John can speak for himself, but my read is that he admitted to using it tactically, and he admitted to enjoying it. Don't see it credited with helping him win one. We could put John in a G-102 with a compass and a radio and he would beat most of us, without a handicap.

My vision of the future of racing does not involve electronics, its more about increasing the popularity of the sport so much That Hooters decides to offer the Sierra Fox Racing team sponsorship in the form of crew, beer wings, and a brand new glider.

Maybe not so much a vision as a wish list.

SF



SF
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Old February 10th 16, 02:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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My vision of the future of racing does not involve electronics, its more about increasing the popularity of the sport so much That Hooters decides to offer the Sierra Fox Racing team sponsorship in the form of crew, beer wings, and a brand new glider.


....and make america great again!
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Old February 16th 16, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 9:40:55 PM UTC-5, SF wrote:
John can speak for himself, but my read is that he admitted to using it tactically, and he admitted to enjoying it. Don't see it credited with helping him win one. We could put John in a G-102 with a compass and a radio and he would beat most of us, without a handicap.

My vision of the future of racing does not involve electronics, its more about increasing the popularity of the sport so much That Hooters decides to offer the Sierra Fox Racing team sponsorship in the form of crew, beer wings, and a brand new glider.

Maybe not so much a vision as a wish list.

SF



SF


hear hear!
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Old February 11th 16, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Yeah, yeah. I know. I just didnt want to mess too much, to fast with our only real useful anti-collision tool. ;-)

Let them (Flarm, IGC, etc) figure out a new reduced info mode that works well, is safe, etc and then we will support it...if ADSB isnt too close to being a requirement in gliders by then...

What some feel about technology may simply not be possible to ban (FAA regulations) in a very short time...

Sean

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 8:30:19 PM UTC-5, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:42:54 PM UTC-5, SF wrote:
TOPIC: "Racing in the Futu Should We Moderate the Impact of Technology?"

John Godfrey (QT) began competing in gliders in 1984. He was elected to the US Competition Rules Committee in 2008 and has chaired the committee since 2013. In addition he has served as Competition Director for National championships, Scorer for both International and US contests, and US Team Captain for the 2006 WGC.

John's key interest is in increasing participation by making/keeping racing fun and affordable for people like him (i.e., those unlikely to win a National). In addition to presenting a road map for coming technologies and their possible impact, he looks forward to thoughtful and lively interactions with the audience on these issues.

Thursday Feb. 18, 2016 2:30 - 3:15 PM
SSA Convention Greenville SC
www.ssaconvention.org

Flarm on, you flarming Flarmers
SF


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...M/DbF55dhoEQAJ

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Old February 12th 16, 01:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
SF
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You know a topic about the future has gone off track when Vietnamese soup is mentioned.

We are addicted to technology. Not just in gliding, but in everyday life. I foresee of no conceivable way to ban it from a sport begging for more participation. The PW-5 was an attempt at limiting technology, in a trade off for affordability, that didn't turn out so well. Or is that something else I got wrong? Pretty soon I'll be banned from talking about the future, in addition to Schempp Hirth.

Bob W, dude, next time I'm working up a performance review for our sales manager, you are the first guy I gonna call.

Oh and the guy that is going to race the 1-26, those things are a blast in a one design race, just get your self a cell phone first, makes calling the retrieve desk easier.



SF
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Old February 13th 16, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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A cell phone for the retreave desk? Hell ive got them on speed dial when flying the 1-26 but i just wish karl would get the handicapping right, if so my little spam can would be creaming you glass boys or if they adopt that new handicapped task like they are experimenting with up in truckie, the glass boys will be the ones needing the speed dial! Lol
 




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