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  #24  
Old January 26th 04, 05:56 AM
F.L. Whiteley
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"F1y1n" wrote in message
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(Mike Reyes) wrote in message

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Mr. Kesik has pride in the sailplanes produced by his native Poland.
If my US was producing gliders which matched the current Polish
standard, this forum would be filled with American nationalistic
pride.


I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it. Do I state it in my every other post? I do not bring up
American gliders in every post, because, as we all know, they are not
competitive. I wish Mr. Kesik realized the same about Polish gliders.
No amount of 'nationalistic pride' will fix the PW5.


Perhaps, but choice of the PW-5 as the World Class glider was not a Polish
decision. FWIW, I had partial ownership of an Jantar Std 2 for a short
while and found it as nimble as my DG-100 and an honest 40/1 glider and
comfortable also. Though the trim and undercarriage lever seemed a bit
gash, I've recommended this glider to more than one happy owner while
warning them of known issues. FWIW, I wouldn't recommend a PW-5 in this
part of the US, because penetration into wind is fairly important.

However, although Mr. Kesik reminds us that the Polish production pricing is
in Zlotys, all of the websites' pricing appears in Euros. My most recent
check indicates that the price of the Junior seems to float, but I haven't
checked pricing often. If this is indeed the case, they should perhaps
advertise in multiple currencies; euros, dollar, and UK pound.

Frank Whiteley
Colorado


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Old January 26th 04, 12:12 PM
Kevin Neave
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At 04:06 26 January 2004, F1y1n wrote:
I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind,
and hell am
I proud of it.


... And here was I thinking you lived in the US

:-)





  #26  
Old January 26th 04, 12:40 PM
Ben Flewett
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I agree with this guy and will put my name to it.
However, the PW5 it is not the fault of the Poles.
They did a good job given the parameters they had
to work within.

The PW5 class has proven itself a failure but I still
believe in the concept of the World Class. The PW5
has failed because most competition pilots want to
fly decent ship.



At 00:00 25 January 2004, G.Kurek wrote:
I CARE! And I certainly do not care about posts from
some punk that is
too scared to put his name under.

Caring

Gregg J. Kurek

(F1y1n) wrote in message news:...
'Janusz Kesik' wrote in message news:...
Maybe it's time to switch to SZD Diana, Puchacz,
or SZD-55 at least as
long as the Poland isn't in the Euro zone?
Just count it...

Regards,


Mr. Kesik,
would you please shut up about your useless Polish
gliders? Not one
worthwile glider has ever come out of Poland, with
your 'stars' PW-5
and Junior belonging to the 'run, do not walk away
from' category.
Nobody cares.
Thank you.





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Old January 30th 04, 08:21 PM
303pilot
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"F1y1n" wrote in message
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I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind, and hell am
I proud of it. Do I state it in my every other post? I do not bring up
American gliders in every post, because, as we all know, they are not
competitive. I wish Mr. Kesik realized the same about Polish gliders.


I'd take a Diana in a heartbeat.

Then again, I'm from Texas, not the good ol' USA of that Yale-y carpetbagger
can't-believe-it but-he-makes-Clinton-look-good Bush.
BTW--we called him shrub while he was governor.


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Old January 30th 04, 10:24 PM
Stewart Kissel
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I'd take a Diana in a heartbeat.

Then again, I'm from Texas, not the good ol' USA of
that Yale-y carpetbagger
can't-believe-it but-he-makes-Clinton-look-good Bush.
BTW--we called him shrub while he was governor.

SNIP

Thats why the majority of us didn't vote for him .


Back to the Diana, any pics are reports on the rewinged,
50-1+ version?



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Old January 31st 04, 02:19 AM
Janusz Kesik
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Back to the Diana, any pics are reports on the rewinged,
50-1+ version?


I have only heard that the first flights are scheduled for summer '04. =
I'll post any info as soon as it becomes official.

Regards,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit
www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl


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Old January 31st 04, 04:31 PM
Jack Wyman
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"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
Back to the Diana, any pics are reports on the rewinged,
50-1+ version?


I have only heard that the first flights are scheduled for summer '04.
I'll post any info as soon as it becomes official.

Regards,



Bogumil Beres, designer of the Diana and the Diana 2, will be speaking
at the SSA convention in Atlanta next week. And it's 52, not 50, to 1.
Incredible. If this glider were called "ASW-30", it would be
back-ordered for years. There must be a lesson there somewhere...
Jack Wyman
Diana s/n 001
 




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