Shock! Horror! Door pops open!

unicate wrote:
"Peter R." wrote:

Mike wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi=ADa-pacific/4439341.stm

Praise for the two policemen who tried to hold the door shut, but not
a
mention of the pilot getting them all back on the ground safely.
Nice.

Yeah. The brave cops held the door shut with the connivance of the
160kt slipstream..
And the pilot was more concerned with flying the aeroplane. That's waht
pilots do !

unicate writes:

"Peter R." wrote:

Mike wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi*a-pacific/4439341.stm

Praise for the two policemen who tried to hold the door shut, but not a
mention of the pilot getting them all back on the ground safely. Nice.

Of course not. He almost got the PM killed! What surprised me most
about this story was that the PM travels by such modest plane.

Ari.

--
Elections only count as free and trials as fair if you can lose money
betting on the outcome.

Ok, It coulda been serious...

Once upon a time near Portland Oregon, a Baron in IMC was approaching
the airport from the south with an intrepid aviator flying from the left,
and doing the Jeppsen Revisions on the right seat. Vectors followed, and
when combined with a descent and some turbulence, Pop, the door sprang open
about an inch.

The picture I saw was from the ground with this Baron coming out of the
overcast at high speed in a left bank to base, with a white dotted line
behind him leading up into the overcast. Those pages were about a foot apart
all the way to the runway.
Al



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...
In article , "Bob Gardner"
wrote:
If the door of an Aztec pops open, it will only open about 4-6 inches and
will kind of oscillate back and forth between those extremes. Causes some
tail feather buffeting. Anyone trying to pull the door shut is fighting
air
pressure and wasting his or her time.

Bob Gardner

Just curious, could you do a slip to get the door closed? On my plane, I
take
the doors off and fly. Who needs doors?
tom

K=2E Ari Krupnikov wrote:
unicate writes:

"Peter R." wrote:

Mike wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi=ADa-pacific/4439341.stm

Praise for the two policemen who tried to hold the door shut, but
not a
mention of the pilot getting them all back on the ground safely.
Nice.

Of course not. He almost got the PM killed! What surprised me most
about this story was that the PM travels by such modest plane.


What a load of bull****.
At no time was any-one in danger !
The door will not open in flight unless you are -really- determined..
all the passengers will -not- be ejected into space and the particular
aircraft is quite a pleasant one to fly..
having been in some form of turbulence they would all be well strapped
in

I landed without incident (except for the whole shaking cabin and
missing hood) but it was a complete non-event.

Just had to jump in here and agree. I had the door on my Warrior pop open
on my turn to crosswind after take-off. In the hot Texas summer, I leave
the door open as long as possible to try to keep the cabin temp a little
cooler than a gas oven. I guess I missed the overhead latch after run-up.
I went ahead an made my turn to downwind and reached over and tried to close
the door with my free hand. You already know that didn't work. I reduced
power and slowed to about 70 Kias and kicked in a lot of right rudder.
Closed it with one hand and departed the pattern. Definitely a
non-life-threatening event.

Its a lot more exciting to say the PM cheated death than the truth.

Eddie

Yawn. The PM should get some J-3 time...ahh, there's nothing like a
warm summer evening, fresh Delta breeze coming from the south, you
slip the Cub in for landing, window latched up and door folded down,
and right at stall the door gently lifts up to let you know you've
arrived...doesn't get much better than that. Unless it's flying an
Aircoupe around with the canopy open...

Note to Piper owners:
When closing the doors, observe that the top latch does not ride up over
the top of the vertical latching"pin".
If you grasp the door mounted "hooked" latch, check to see if it is
loose and moves vertically or is firmly attached.
If it is loose, it can ride up over the top of the latching pin and give
a false indication of the tap latch being secure.
The door can then "pop open" in flight as the lower latch may not be
strong enough to withstand the air pressure differential between the
cabin and the slipstream.
The solution to assuring the latch is secure is to hook a finger over
the top of the latch and gently pull it downward and guide it so that
the latch hook centers around the latch pin as the door is pulled closed
and engage the top latch lever before depressing the lower latch lever.

Mike Granby wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4439341.stm


Oh, good God. What was the big deal? If you can't push a car door open at 60
mph, you sure as hell can't push open an aircraft door at 160 knots.

I've had lots of door pop open over the years. Sometimes I got wet. It was
noisy. Nobody ever fell out. I never set down early to latch the door either.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"george" writes:

K. Ari Krupnikov wrote:
unicate writes:
Praise for the two policemen who tried to hold the door shut, but not a
mention of the pilot getting them all back on the ground safely.

Of course not. He almost got the PM killed!

What a load of bull****.

[long explanation why snipped]

No, no! Let's argue about that!

I say, against everything that's been said in this thread, against
what I learned in my private training, my own experience of a door
opening after takeoff about 3 years ago, and against common sense,
that I haven't posted on rec.aviation for too long to remember that
sometimes people do take what you say seriously :=)

Ari.

--
Elections only count as free and trials as fair if you can lose money
betting on the outcome.

Marco,

If your door pops open you land, you close it, you take off again ...


You're right - except for some planes. I wouldn't want the gull wing
doors on our Tobago to come open in flight. Some reports have it swing
up and stay in a position about 5 to 10 inches open, some have it dent
badly and some have it rip off, with a likelyhood of hitting the
stabilizer. That would ruin the day.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)