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Old June 6th 05, 04:19 AM
Jack Allison
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Morgans wrote:

Are you also including a fund for: engine overhaul reserve, annual
inspection expenses reserve, and hangar or tiedown, in your per hour
calculation? If so, that is truly great news!

Yep, this is including all fixed and variable expenses. Variable
expenses including engine/maintenance reserves and fuel run right at
$50/hr., depending on fuel cost. Tack on another $200/month for each
one of us (three partners) and that has put it right at $70/hr. for my
hours each of the last two months.


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Old June 4th 05, 05:26 PM
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Are we still thinking about a convoy? Jay's party is Saturday and we will
be leaving Grass Valley early on Friday (or perhaps even Thursday if the
weather looks crappy.)

We generally shoot for Morgan County UT for the first stop and Alliance NE
for the night. Next day is pretty much a piece of cake into Iowa City with
one gas stop.

What sort of TAS do you get out of that rascal at 10.5 or so?

Jim


7 weeks? That's...like...less than two months...very cool! Yes Jay, it
is like a kid waiting for Christmas...maybe worse this year for me since
it's my first time flying in as an owner and the second fly-in for me this
year. Man, who'd have thought that an FBO meltdown a year ago would have
put me in this spot?

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Old June 5th 05, 07:18 AM
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RST Engineering wrote:

Are we still thinking about a convoy? Jay's party is Saturday and we will
be leaving Grass Valley early on Friday (or perhaps even Thursday if the
weather looks crappy.)

Sure Jim. I still want to head up your way and actually meet. Funny, I
shot the VOR approach to Grass Valley last Thursday evening when I was
out with my CFII. I might be able to make it up to your neck of the
woods next weekend sometime.

Our plan is to leave Friday as well. That might be from RHV if I fly
down to pickup my brother (and the bay area fog cycle allows it). If
fog is likely, he'd drive up this way and we'd leave from LHM.

We generally shoot for Morgan County UT for the first stop and Alliance NE
for the night. Next day is pretty much a piece of cake into Iowa City with
one gas stop.

I'll have to lookup Morgan County. I've probably seen it, just don't
remember it right now. So long as I can get relatively cheap (if that's
possible) 100ll, I'm a happy camper. I generally plan 3-ish hour legs
since anything longer than 3:30 gets a little uncomfortable.

What sort of TAS do you get out of that rascal at 10.5 or so?

You know, I've only calculated TAS once and IIRC, it was around 125-130
kts and I that was between 4500-5500 MSL. One partner mentioned he was
getting 155 kts at 12,000 but didn't say if that was TAS or IAS...my bet
is that it was IAS though.


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Old June 5th 05, 04:08 PM
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Sure Jim. I still want to head up your way and actually meet. Funny, I
shot the VOR approach to Grass Valley last Thursday evening when I was out
with my CFII. I might be able to make it up to your neck of the woods
next weekend sometime.


That's a dog of an approach, isn't it? Minimums are about 300' ABOVE
pattern altitude -- and if you miscalculate time, you are looking the fire
tower on Banner Mountain right in the snoot on the missed approach.

I thoroughly plan on spending all next weekend in the hangar putting the
last pieces back onto the engine.


I'll have to lookup Morgan County. I've probably seen it, just don't
remember it right now. So long as I can get relatively cheap (if that's
possible) 100ll, I'm a happy camper. I generally plan 3-ish hour legs
since anything longer than 3:30 gets a little uncomfortable.


That's right; I forgot. You need LL for your bird. I'd recommend Brigham
City just north of Salt Lake ($2.75) and then Alliance ($2.99). The only
problem is that RHV-BMC is 500 miles, or about 4 hours in your bird and you
said you wanted 3 hour legs. You can do it in three hops -- Wells [$2.70]
to Rawlins [$3.08] and then a chip shot into Alliance.

The more I think about it, the more I like the Wells stop. If you do
Brigham City, it is one hell of a climb to get through Joseph Pass and on
towards Eavenston and Ft. Bridger without going over some really snotty
terrain.


You know, I've only calculated TAS once and IIRC, it was around 125-130
kts and I that was between 4500-5500 MSL. One partner mentioned he was
getting 155 kts at 12,000 but didn't say if that was TAS or IAS...my bet
is that it was IAS though.


Well, if he was getting 155 knots IAS at 12k, then TAS would be something on
the order of 190 knots. That's one mother-fast Arrow.

See ya when you get here.

Jim


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Old June 5th 05, 07:12 PM
Jack Allison
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RST Engineering wrote:

That's a dog of an approach, isn't it? Minimums are about 300' ABOVE
pattern altitude -- and if you miscalculate time, you are looking the fire
tower on Banner Mountain right in the snoot on the missed approach.

Ya, it was an interesting one. We wound up a mile north of the
airport...not that it had anything to do with the instrument student
flying the plane!


I thoroughly plan on spending all next weekend in the hangar putting the
last pieces back onto the engine.

Cool, I have instrument lessons Saturday and Sunday mornings and should
be able to hop up there afterwards.

That's right; I forgot. You need LL for your bird. I'd recommend Brigham
City just north of Salt Lake ($2.75) and then Alliance ($2.99). The only
problem is that RHV-BMC is 500 miles, or about 4 hours in your bird and you
said you wanted 3 hour legs. You can do it in three hops -- Wells [$2.70]
to Rawlins [$3.08] and then a chip shot into Alliance.

If we departed from RHV, we could top off at Grass Valley and go from
there. Despite planning three hour legs, there have been times where
it's pushed closer to four hours. I'll play around with some flight
planning options for the stops you mentioned and see how the numbers
look. Man, 100LL less than $3.00? Flying to OSH is going to be down
right cheap...er, sort of :-) 100ll at LHM is $3.42

Well, if he was getting 155 knots IAS at 12k, then TAS would be something on
the order of 190 knots. That's one mother-fast Arrow.


Hmmm, didn't consider that... We've got several speed mods and all but
190 kts TAS? Hmmm, maybe he had the turbo option installed :-)

See ya when you get here.


I'll drop you an e-mail as plans develop next week


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Jack Allison
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Arrow N2104T

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
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