Do I need DME or ADF in an IFR-certified GPS panel?

On 6/7/05 21:32, "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:20:34 -0500, No Spam wrote:

Looking for thoughts out there...

If I have an IFR-certified GPS (terminal, not just enroute), is there any
reason to keep a DME or ADF in the panel? (Other than being able to listen
to am radio or tracking "non-offical" navaids - e.g., am radio stations!)

TIA,

- Don
History does not long entrust the care of freedom
to the weak or the timid. - Dwight D. Eisenhower


Without an ADF receiver, I would not be able to obtain the local altimeter
setting at my home airport, and take advantage of lower minimums available
with that information.

I have no idea how many other airports there are where the local altimeter
is available ONLY via the ADF, but that is the case at KEPM.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Thanks, Ron, hadn't heard of such a case.

I see there's a phone number tied to your AWOS - have you tried calling it
airborne with a cell phone?

Never mind, that's illegal...

- Don
It's not how hard you fly 'em, it's how you fly 'em hard. - George Braly

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:20:12 -0500, No Spam wrote:

I see there's a phone number tied to your AWOS - have you tried calling it
airborne with a cell phone?

I was not aware of a phone number; and I just checked the database at
AIRNAV and don't see one listed there or at AOPA. What is it? Where did
you find it? I'll give it a call and see what answers.




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On 6/8/05 18:40, "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:20:12 -0500, No Spam wrote:

I see there's a phone number tied to your AWOS - have you tried calling it
airborne with a cell phone?

I was not aware of a phone number; and I just checked the database at
AIRNAV and don't see one listed there or at AOPA. What is it? Where did
you find it? I'll give it a call and see what answers.




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KEPM under "Airport Communications":

WX AWOS-A: 260 (207-853-0997)

- Don
It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.
- Mark Twain

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:25:15 -0500, No Spam wrote:

On 6/8/05 18:40, "Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:20:12 -0500, No Spam wrote:

I see there's a phone number tied to your AWOS - have you tried calling it
airborne with a cell phone?

I was not aware of a phone number; and I just checked the database at
AIRNAV and don't see one listed there or at AOPA. What is it? Where did
you find it? I'll give it a call and see what answers.




Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KEPM under "Airport Communications":

WX AWOS-A: 260 (207-853-0997)

- Don

I think that's an old number for the terminal building. A sleepy voice
answered when I dialed it just now :-(


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...
Without an ADF receiver, I would not be able to obtain the local altimeter
setting at my home airport, and take advantage of lower minimums available
with that information.

I have no idea how many other airports there are where the local altimeter
is available ONLY via the ADF, but that is the case at KEPM.

Yours is the first I've ever heard of where the altimeter was even AVAILABLE
over an NDB (not that I was listening...).

KUMP in Indianapolis transmits AWOS over their NDB on channel 338.

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...

Without an ADF receiver, I would not be able to obtain the local altimeter
setting at my home airport, and take advantage of lower minimums available
with that information.

I have no idea how many other airports there are where the local altimeter
is available ONLY via the ADF, but that is the case at KEPM.


Yours is the first I've ever heard of where the altimeter was even AVAILABLE
over an NDB (not that I was listening...).

Jon Kraus wrote:
KUMP in Indianapolis transmits AWOS over their NDB on channel 338.


And neither FSS or Approach can get it for you?

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:14 -0400, Ron Natalie wrote:

Jon Kraus wrote:
KUMP in Indianapolis transmits AWOS over their NDB on channel 338.


And neither FSS or Approach can get it for you?




So far as EPM is concerned, the information is only available on the NDB
frequency of 260. Neither Center nor FSS have access to it.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
...

Without an ADF receiver, I would not be able to obtain the local altimeter
setting at my home airport, and take advantage of lower minimums available
with that information.

Not on 124.675?

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:40:10 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
.. .

Without an ADF receiver, I would not be able to obtain the local altimeter
setting at my home airport, and take advantage of lower minimums available
with that information.

Not on 124.675?




No, the NDB transmits on 260.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)