Practice Engine-Out Landings

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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One trick to use, if needed, when you find yourself just a little short
but
still in a safe position, is to pull the prop into high pitch, low rpm.
This will decrease your drag and extend your glide just a tad.


.... if I panic and overshoot, will I forget that the blue lever goes in
first??... and if I *do*, what is the usual consequence, say on the average
non-turbo 6-banger?

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"Icebound" wrote:



... if I panic and overshoot, will I forget that the blue lever goes in
first??... and if I *do*, what is the usual consequence, say on the average
non-turbo 6-banger?

If you're prone to panic perhaps you should stick with you Ford Falcon.
G

You should never "forget" the blue lever. A power increase should
always be mixture, prop, throttle.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

"Dale" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Icebound" wrote:



... if I panic and overshoot, will I forget that the blue lever goes in
first??... and if I *do*, what is the usual consequence, say on the
average
non-turbo 6-banger?

If you're prone to panic perhaps you should stick with you Ford Falcon.
G


Well, okay, sure....

But the question really was: what are the consequences?

Does it typically lug and die, or will it lug and lumber upward slowly, or
do I get one of the above plus twist the crank, etc.???

Do I get away with it? None of the time? Most of the time? Once in while?

In article ,
"Icebound" wrote:



But the question really was: what are the consequences?

Does it typically lug and die, or will it lug and lumber upward slowly, or
do I get one of the above plus twist the crank, etc.???

Do I get away with it? None of the time? Most of the time? Once in while?

I suppose it depends. G Pressures in the cylinder will be higher than
normal, if taken to extremes you might crack a cylinder.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Jim Burns wrote:

One trick to use, if needed, when you find yourself just a little short but
still in a safe position, is to pull the prop into high pitch, low rpm.
This will decrease your drag and extend your glide just a tad.

In the Mooney it's more than a tad.

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:05:39 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

With the runway coming up at remarkable speed, I flared and put her down
just past the numbers -- arriving like the proverbial load of sand. It was
a perfect "3-point landing" -- except you don't *ever* want to land that
nose-heavy 6-cylinder on the nosewheel!

Jay,

Do you have any speed mods? I have K2U's mods on my PA28-180 and the
stabilator seal greatly improves pitch authority. It is easy to hold
off the nose during landings (even power off).

-Nathan

Do you have any speed mods? I have K2U's mods on my PA28-180 and the
stabilator seal greatly improves pitch authority. It is easy to hold
off the nose during landings (even power off).

Yep. A previous owner installed every speed mod available on our Cherokee
235.

I didn't run out of elevator -- I just blew the flare, plain and simple. If
I had pulled harder, the nose would've come up, but I am so used to the
flare with power that the descent rate caught me by surprise.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:23:28 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Do you have any speed mods? I have K2U's mods on my PA28-180 and the
stabilator seal greatly improves pitch authority. It is easy to hold
off the nose during landings (even power off).

Yep. A previous owner installed every speed mod available on our Cherokee
235.

I didn't run out of elevator -- I just blew the flare, plain and simple. If
I had pulled harder, the nose would've come up, but I am so used to the
flare with power that the descent rate caught me by surprise.

Gotcha. Easy to do, which is why we need to practice these things...

Next time you might try adding about 10 kts to you final approach speed
when power off. The extra speed will help compensate for the lack of
power and make your flare easier. You also wont' need as much flap to
get down.

Brian
CFIIG/ASEL

Better go get your firewall checked.