Public Aerobatics - a Disaster waiting to happen...

In article , pittss1c wrote:
A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?

About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie
--
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of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way
to indicate successful termination of their C programs." (Robert Firth)

You are absolutely right... and I guess a vote for the North Ameracian
AT6 team should be out there too.

Tina Marie wrote:
In article , pittss1c wrote:

A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?


About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie

Tina Marie wrote:
In article , pittss1c wrote:

A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?


About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie


Sean Tucker is incredibly skilled but that style of performance just
doesn't appeal to me as much as the Red Barons. I love to watch them.
I also love to watch the Aeroshell T-6 team. Both of those teams fly
fantastic formations gracefully and I'd watch them again and again.

I'm always interested when somebody does aerobatics in an aircraft
similar to one that I fly, so a performance in a Cessna 150 is something
I will stop to watch.

Last year at Oshkosh when the Masters of Disaster performed I had white
knuckles the entire time.

- John Ousterhout -

("John Ousterhout" wrote)
[snip]
Last year at Oshkosh when the Masters of Disaster performed I had white
knuckles the entire time.


You too. I was drained after watching them ....great show!! :-)

Our favorite airshow at OSH last year, by a slim margin over Masters of
Disaster, was the aerial ballet by those two P-51's. That show was absolute
poetry. Very moving.


Montblack

Tina Marie wrote:
About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...


They were down in Rock Hill, SC a couple of months ago for a while. They'd taxi
out in the morning, do a formation takeoff, and then dissappear over to the
Chester, SC airport to practice their maneuvers. They spent the nights in Rock
Hill.

I had the pleasure of taxiing out right behind them one morning. There's
nothing like the sound of a Pratt & Whitney engine in the morning... unless it's
the sound of several of them in tandem.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Hi Tina!

Then You must LOVE the Snowbirds!

They use the Tudor Trainers.......

Power is barely adequate to get a student into trouble...

Nowhere near "excessive"

Cheers!

Dave


On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:21:12 -0500, Tina Marie
wrote:

In article , pittss1c wrote:
A show of hands: how many higher altitude, loose formation non-violent
acts do people here like to watch?

About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above. Any act that subsitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Tina Marie

"Tina Marie" wrote

About the only acro act I really enjoy are the Red Barons, who
probably do qualify as the above.

I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated. If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop, or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy them.
As is, if able to (not working), I go in a building, or back to camp, to
escape the noise.

I like noise and airplanes. I like B-1 full afterburner passes. I like the
Harrier hovering. I like a B-17 taking off, and P-51's, and ....

There is something about the slow beating of big props (some of them) that I
just can't stand.

Any act that substitutes
excessive aircraft power for pilot skill will bore me quickly...

Shaun Tucker bores you? He has extreme power, but the stuff he does can not
be done by airplanes. Somehow he does them. :-)
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated. If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop, or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy them.


You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons make is
the blade tips going supersonic. Shorter blades go even faster.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
I can't stand the Reds, because of the G*d awful noise! I think because
of
the physiology of pressure waves on the body, I become nearly nauseated.
If
they would sacrifice a little bit of power, by going to a shorter prop,
or
one with more blades, or slow the RPM's a bit, I would indeed enjoy
them.


You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons
make is
the blade tips going supersonic. Shorter blades go even faster.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.

Ummm...no, it's all a function of blade diameter and the corresponding
circumference of the prop at the tip. At the same RPM, the shorter blade's
tips are traveling SLOWER (due to the smaller circumference) than a larger
blade.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote

You want bigger blades; not shorter. The rasping noise the Red Barons
make is
the blade tips going supersonic.

Close. It is the air over the blades being accelerated to supersonic
speeds.

Shorter blades go even faster.

Shorter blades turned at the same RPM would not have supersonic airflow.

Personally, I find that rasp is like music.

I don't mind a certain amount of rap. Theirs is too much. IMHO
--
Jim in NC