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Old August 5th 05, 07:46 PM
Jose
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I do know that ground operations at
Renton differ from what almost all student pilots are taught about
operations at a controlled airport.


How so? I'm going to Renton in September.

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Old August 5th 05, 08:05 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Jose" wrote in message
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I do know that ground operations at Renton differ from what almost all
student pilots are taught about operations at a controlled airport.


How so? I'm going to Renton in September.


Huh. I thought I'd posted a post with this information. Maybe I decided
not to, 'cause I don't see it.

Anyway, at Renton only the runway is controlled. The entire remainder of
the airport is a "non-movement area", which means you can move freely about
without any advice or instruction from ATC. It's essentially a non-towered
airport, until you get to the runway.

Though, I thought they put that information in the A/FD and it doesn't
appear to be there now. Probably want to double-check with the tower after
landing, before you go taxiing across the airport without a ground control
clearance.

Pete


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Old August 5th 05, 06:05 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Bob Gardner wrote:

150 went straight into an empty school


That's going to cost us.

Anyone who has driven/flown into the sun
knows that "unlimited visibility" shrinks down to zero under those
conditions.

Tower-controlled airport, BTW. A contract tower, not an FAA tower.


I hear complaints about the tower at my "home" airport, and I've made a few
of them myself. But I seem to recall once when they shifted the active to
permit us to avoid that problem as much as possible.

- Andrew

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Old August 5th 05, 07:16 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
online.com...
150 went straight into an empty school


That's going to cost us.


Possibly. Especially when the evening news is putting up an aerial photo
and pointing out all the stuff in the photo that the 150 "narrowly missed".
Of course, they failed to point out that each object they circled was a very
tiny target in a vast area of non-targets. Even in a relatively congested
area where this accident happened, the odds of the 150 hitting a person were
remarkably small.

This was on the KIRO evening news, by the way. George commented that "that
reporter seems to know his or her stuff". Since he didn't refer to a
specific article, I don't know which reporter he's referring to; probably
Rick Price though, and yes...he's their "aviation correspondent" and does
have an above-average knowledge of things related to aviation.

But that doesn't stop the rest of their crew from stupid reporting. And
yes, I blame (at least in part) stupid reporting for some of general
aviation's woes.

Pete


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Old August 5th 05, 07:27 PM
George Patterson
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Peter Duniho wrote:

George commented that "that
reporter seems to know his or her stuff".


Sorry. I meant this one.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/4813756/detail.html

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Old August 5th 05, 07:48 PM
Peter Duniho
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
newscOIe.22$lT.15@trndny05...
Sorry. I meant this one.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/4813756/detail.html


Hmmm...well, the only KIRO reported identified by name is indeed Rick Price.
If it was his comments to which you referred, I'd have to agree.


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Old August 6th 05, 12:40 AM
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote

That's going to cost us.


The school was empty, and was undergoing asbestos abatement. It was stated
for demolition.
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Old August 6th 05, 01:14 AM
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Morgans wrote:
"Andrew Gideon" wrote
That's going to cost us.

The school was empty, and was undergoing asbestos abatement. It was stated
for demolition.


do you really think journalists will bother to check that out,
or even if they did, to report it? which is going to sell
more paper? 'little plane crashes into derelict/unoccupied
building' or 'little plane crashes into *school*' ?

--Sylvain
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Old August 6th 05, 01:42 AM
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"Sylvain" wrote

do you really think journalists will bother to check that out,
or even if they did, to report it? which is going to sell
more paper? 'little plane crashes into derelict/unoccupied
building' or 'little plane crashes into *school*' ?


I see you haven't changed.

*Plonk*
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Jim in NC
 




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