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Old October 15th 05, 06:11 PM
Chris
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"A. Smith" wrote in message
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"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
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The original poster got it right with his use of the phrase "Runway ID",
because it is, in fact, an ID based on a number, as opposed to some type
of
number.

What is the magnetic heading of Runway 5?

If someone is named "Fred", do you refer to them as "Zero Fred"?

The point is, we are dealing with a "name" which consists of a numeral,
as
opposed to an actual number.

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?


Not just to you Bill but..............when you are on short final to a
runway heading about 010 degrees does it have "1" or "01" painted on it?


Depends where you are. Here in the UK you see 01. So runway five in the
original example has 05 painted on the threshold. By the way, what is
painted on the runway sign boards, etc?

But the runway ID is a number and it is a number giving the approximate
magnetic direction, otherwise they would not change it occasionally when too
far out and not a name. Otherwise lets call them by real names.

Runway Harold, or runway Freda. Not as much use as 05, really.


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Old October 15th 05, 06:28 PM
A. Smith
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"Chris" wrote in message
...

"A. Smith" wrote in message
...

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
. ..
The original poster got it right with his use of the phrase "Runway ID",
because it is, in fact, an ID based on a number, as opposed to some type
of
number.

What is the magnetic heading of Runway 5?

If someone is named "Fred", do you refer to them as "Zero Fred"?

The point is, we are dealing with a "name" which consists of a numeral,
as
opposed to an actual number.

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?


Not just to you Bill but..............when you are on short final to a
runway heading about 010 degrees does it have "1" or "01" painted on it?


Depends where you are. Here in the UK you see 01. So runway five in the
original example has 05 painted on the threshold. By the way, what is
painted on the runway sign boards, etc?

But the runway ID is a number and it is a number giving the approximate
magnetic direction, otherwise they would not change it occasionally when
too far out and not a name. Otherwise lets call them by real names.

Runway Harold, or runway Freda. Not as much use as 05, really.



I would say it is the runway name painted on the threshold and should be
pronounced as it is written.

Allen


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Old October 16th 05, 12:59 AM
Chris
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"A. Smith" wrote in message
t...

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"A. Smith" wrote in message
...

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
. ..
The original poster got it right with his use of the phrase "Runway
ID",
because it is, in fact, an ID based on a number, as opposed to some
type of
number.

What is the magnetic heading of Runway 5?

If someone is named "Fred", do you refer to them as "Zero Fred"?

The point is, we are dealing with a "name" which consists of a numeral,
as
opposed to an actual number.

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?

Not just to you Bill but..............when you are on short final to a
runway heading about 010 degrees does it have "1" or "01" painted on it?


Depends where you are. Here in the UK you see 01. So runway five in the
original example has 05 painted on the threshold. By the way, what is
painted on the runway sign boards, etc?

But the runway ID is a number and it is a number giving the approximate
magnetic direction, otherwise they would not change it occasionally when
too far out and not a name. Otherwise lets call them by real names.

Runway Harold, or runway Freda. Not as much use as 05, really.



I would say it is the runway name painted on the threshold and should be
pronounced as it is written.


ICAO standards offer a two digit number but then the US don't follow ICAO


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Old October 15th 05, 06:37 PM
A. Smith
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Default Runway ID


"Chris" wrote in message
...

"A. Smith" wrote in message
...

"Lakeview Bill" wrote in message
. ..
The original poster got it right with his use of the phrase "Runway ID",
because it is, in fact, an ID based on a number, as opposed to some type
of
number.

What is the magnetic heading of Runway 5?

If someone is named "Fred", do you refer to them as "Zero Fred"?

The point is, we are dealing with a "name" which consists of a numeral,
as
opposed to an actual number.

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?


Not just to you Bill but..............when you are on short final to a
runway heading about 010 degrees does it have "1" or "01" painted on it?


Depends where you are. Here in the UK you see 01. So runway five in the
original example has 05 painted on the threshold. By the way, what is
painted on the runway sign boards, etc?

But the runway ID is a number and it is a number giving the approximate
magnetic direction, otherwise they would not change it occasionally when
too far out and not a name. Otherwise lets call them by real names.

Runway Harold, or runway Freda. Not as much use as 05, really.


Runway Harold is ok, as is runway Freda. Runway Fred is not, it could be
Runway Freda or Frederick. If I am in a crowded room and someone calls out
"Hey Allen" I would be compeled to look around and see who was calling.
Now, if they were to call "Hey Al" I probably wouldn't even look up. They
could be calling for Allen, Albert, Alfred or a number of other "Als".

Allen


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Old October 16th 05, 02:16 PM
Dave Doe
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In article ,
says...
The original poster got it right with his use of the phrase "Runway ID",
because it is, in fact, an ID based on a number, as opposed to some type of
number.

What is the magnetic heading of Runway 5?

If someone is named "Fred", do you refer to them as "Zero Fred"?

The point is, we are dealing with a "name" which consists of a numeral, as
opposed to an actual number.

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?


Because we don't all live in the USA?

Google Earth to...
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  #6  
Old October 17th 05, 12:30 PM
Stefan
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Lakeview Bill wrote:

The runway is NAMED Runway 5. Why would you prepend a zero to a NAME?


Because the ICAO standard says that a runway name has always two digits.
Why? To minimize the possibility of misunderstandings, especially with
pilots and/or controllers who don't speak English as their first
language and/or when the radio quality is marginal. As far as I know,
all countries adhere to this standard... well, all except one, of course.

Stefan
 




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