IFR/Flight Following -- ATC Preferences?

On 10/27/2005 11:23 AM, Mark T. Dame wrote the following:

I used to feel the same way until I got my instrument ticket. Once I
started flying IFR flight plans, I started to file for any trip over an
hour or so long, regardless of weather. I liked having the extra eyes
looking for traffic (not to mention not having to worry about
circumnavigating some large cloud event).

Now, even if I don't file, I still call up for flight following unless
the trip is really short or I'm just going up to practice stalls or T&Gs.


Yes. In our neck of the woods (ZMP) I have never been refused flight following
nor been dropped when I was handed off to the Minneapolis TRACON. I am just
curious what the controllers prefer as it does not matter a great deal to me in
most cases. Hence the question.

As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice, or
reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in advance.

On 10/25/2005 10:39 AM, Mitty wrote the following:
Departing cross country out of the Minneapolis area in severe clear, I
will usually ask for either flight following or will file. I depart from
KMIC, which is under the 4000 foot shelf of the MSP bravo airspace.

For example, Friday I am going from KMIC to KGPZ, which is a couple
hundred miles to the north.

I am curious what TRACON and Center guys think:

Do you prefer to have me on a full IFR flight plan? (I always cancel
when I have the airport in sight if the destination is non-towered.)

Just advisories so you know who I am and what I am doing, but you don't
have to provide separation services?

Or do you not wish to hear at all? (Hopefully not, because I like being
in the system both for traffic info and in case of emergency.)

TIA

In a previous article, said:
To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice, or
reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in advance.

Too bad. This is usenet - you don't always get what you want.


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at all. -- Simon Burr

Mitty wrote:
As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

I am curious what TRACON and Center guys think:

Why don't you call them up and ask them? The phone numbers are in the AFD... or
call your local friendly LOCKMART FSS and they can probably suggest some phone
numbers.

Prediction: you won't get anything more useful than what you've gotten here.

You really need to assess what services you need, not what services ATC wants to
provide... but I suppose you don't want to hear that.

Dave

"Mitty" wrote in message
...
As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice, or
reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in advance.

Oh well excuse me Mr Picky.

I've got a grand idea for you then pal. How about you pick up the freak'n
phone and just call them instead of posting a shout to the world in a plea
for advice.

John Doe wrote:

"Mitty" wrote in message
...
As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice, or
reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in advance.

Oh well excuse me Mr Picky.

I've got a grand idea for you then pal. How about you pick up the freak'n
phone and just call them instead of posting a shout to the world in a plea
for advice.

Damn, my news server didn't have Mitty's original post.

Hey, Mitty: Up yours, chief. You post to a public newsgroup, you are
going to get all kinds of replies. You no likey? Then stay away from
Usenet.


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No. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Folks we need t/b civil to each other. I was embarrassed recently when I
showed a friend how useful the info is on R.A.I. "Opps, never mind, he has
a problem w/ him." Oh, ya, They get a little off track sometimes." Well,
let me show the weather resources we have."

--

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"Mitty" wrote in message
...
As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice, or
reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in advance.

On 10/25/2005 10:39 AM, Mitty wrote the following:
Departing cross country out of the Minneapolis area in severe clear, I
will usually ask for either flight following or will file. I depart from
KMIC, which is under the 4000 foot shelf of the MSP bravo airspace.

For example, Friday I am going from KMIC to KGPZ, which is a couple
hundred miles to the north.

I am curious what TRACON and Center guys think:

Do you prefer to have me on a full IFR flight plan? (I always cancel
when I have the airport in sight if the destination is non-towered.)

Just advisories so you know who I am and what I am doing, but you don't
have to provide separation services?

Or do you not wish to hear at all? (Hopefully not, because I like being
in the system both for traffic info and in case of emergency.)

TIA

Tortuous reasoning. I may have to recline with a cold compress on my
forehead.

Bob Gardner

"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." wrote in message
...
No. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

Folks we need t/b civil to each other. I was embarrassed recently when I
showed a friend how useful the info is on R.A.I. "Opps, never mind, he
has a problem w/ him." Oh, ya, They get a little off track sometimes."
Well, let me show the weather resources we have."

--

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"Mitty" wrote in message
...
As of right now, 6 posts, none of which respond to the OP.

To clarify: I am asking the ATC guys a question. I am not interested in
readings from the FAR/AIM, other pilots' personal practices, OT advice,
or reading posts from people who are flaming each other. Thanks in
advance.

On 10/25/2005 10:39 AM, Mitty wrote the following:
Departing cross country out of the Minneapolis area in severe clear, I
will usually ask for either flight following or will file. I depart from
KMIC, which is under the 4000 foot shelf of the MSP bravo airspace.

For example, Friday I am going from KMIC to KGPZ, which is a couple
hundred miles to the north.

I am curious what TRACON and Center guys think:

Do you prefer to have me on a full IFR flight plan? (I always cancel
when I have the airport in sight if the destination is non-towered.)

Just advisories so you know who I am and what I am doing, but you don't
have to provide separation services?

Or do you not wish to hear at all? (Hopefully not, because I like being
in the system both for traffic info and in case of emergency.)

TIA

Not a specific reply, but just compare Bob Gardner's cogent, reasoned posts
with Lynne's tirade. There's the best and worst of usenet in one short
thread...

Yes. About 14 posts so far and not a single one to answer the question. The
problem with the worst is not that it is obnoxious, it is that it drives off the
best.

On 10/25/2005 3:27 PM, Joe Johnson wrote the following:
Not a specific reply, but just compare Bob Gardner's cogent, reasoned posts
with Lynne's tirade. There's the best and worst of usenet in one short
thread...