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  #1  
Old November 1st 05, 03:41 PM
Jim Burns
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Thanks for all the great responses!

Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02 vs
medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)

What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?

I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse controller
vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.

Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Jim


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Old November 1st 05, 04:51 PM
Bashir Salamati
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02 vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25
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Old November 2nd 05, 03:45 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Bashir Salamati" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02
vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse
controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25


http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html

Pelican's Perch #13:
Getting High on Welder's Oxygen

Having problems finding Aviator's Breathing Oxygen to refill your bottle?
Upset about the rip-off prices some FBOs charge for an O2 fill? Don't put up
with it, says AVweb's John Deakin, who explains why it's perfectly safe -
and perfectly legal - to use cheap welder's oxygen, and tells you exactly
what you need to know to buy it in bulk and do your own refills.


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Old November 2nd 05, 09:21 PM
xyzzy
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Matt Barrow wrote:

"Bashir Salamati" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02
vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse
controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25



http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html

Pelican's Perch #13:
Getting High on Welder's Oxygen

Having problems finding Aviator's Breathing Oxygen to refill your bottle?
Upset about the rip-off prices some FBOs charge for an O2 fill? Don't put up
with it, says AVweb's John Deakin, who explains why it's perfectly safe -
and perfectly legal - to use cheap welder's oxygen, and tells you exactly
what you need to know to buy it in bulk and do your own refills.



I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.


--
"You can support the troops but not the president"
--Representative Tom Delay (R-TX), during the Kosovo war.

  #5  
Old November 2nd 05, 09:33 PM
Gig 601XL Builder
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"xyzzy" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

"Bashir Salamati" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02
vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse
controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25



http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html

Pelican's Perch #13:
Getting High on Welder's Oxygen

Having problems finding Aviator's Breathing Oxygen to refill your bottle?
Upset about the rip-off prices some FBOs charge for an O2 fill? Don't put
up with it, says AVweb's John Deakin, who explains why it's perfectly
safe - and perfectly legal - to use cheap welder's oxygen, and tells you
exactly what you need to know to buy it in bulk and do your own refills.



I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.



I wonder how much was paid out in that law suit?


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Old November 2nd 05, 09:36 PM
Peter R.
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xyzzy wrote:

I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.


Absolutely incredible that the passenger survived this accident.

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Peter
























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Old November 2nd 05, 10:02 PM
Mark Hansen
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On 11/2/2005 13:21, xyzzy wrote:

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Bashir Salamati" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation 02
vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse
controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25



http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html

Pelican's Perch #13:
Getting High on Welder's Oxygen

Having problems finding Aviator's Breathing Oxygen to refill your bottle?
Upset about the rip-off prices some FBOs charge for an O2 fill? Don't put up
with it, says AVweb's John Deakin, who explains why it's perfectly safe -
and perfectly legal - to use cheap welder's oxygen, and tells you exactly
what you need to know to buy it in bulk and do your own refills.



I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.



Are you saying that Compressed Air is the same as Welder's Oxygen, or did
I miss something?

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA
  #8  
Old November 2nd 05, 10:12 PM
Jim Burns
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Tank was filled with breathing air, not oxygen, not even welding 02.
Weirdest most bizarre thing I read: "The aircraft sustained an inflight
breakup during an uncontrolled descent, and came to rest in a tree.
According to the surviving passenger..." Wow. And according to the
complete narrative the passenger only received minor injuries, but the pilot
actually died of hypoxia or he may have also survived!

Jim

"xyzzy" wrote in message
...
Matt Barrow wrote:

"Bashir Salamati" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:41:37 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

:Thanks for all the great responses!
:
:Another question that hit me (without getting into the whole aviation

02
vs
:medical 02 vs welding 02 debate)
:
:What is the average cost for your refills with aviation 02?
:
:I really like the idea of Precise Flights pulse system, but I'd like to
:compare the cost of 02 saved vs the cost of the adjustible pulse
controller
:vs the claimed increase in comfort over the regular non-pulse systems.
:
:Thanks again, lots of great answers!

Aviation 02, $25

Welding 02, $.25



http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html

Pelican's Perch #13:
Getting High on Welder's Oxygen

Having problems finding Aviator's Breathing Oxygen to refill your

bottle?
Upset about the rip-off prices some FBOs charge for an O2 fill? Don't

put up
with it, says AVweb's John Deakin, who explains why it's perfectly

safe -
and perfectly legal - to use cheap welder's oxygen, and tells you

exactly
what you need to know to buy it in bulk and do your own refills.



I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.


--
"You can support the troops but not the president"
--Representative Tom Delay (R-TX), during the Kosovo war.



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Old November 2nd 05, 10:30 PM
Ron Natalie
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xyzzy wrote:


I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few
years ago.


So what does that have to do with welding oxygen versus ABO?

The bottles in question were filled with air, not oxygen. The
markings on the bottle, the color of the bottle, the invoice from
the gas supplier, and the contents of the bottle were all in
agreement, air (like SCUBA) not oxygen.

Makes me think I should carry a gas analyzer. Scuba divers are
tending to do so to make sure their more esoteric mixes are prepared
right.
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Old November 3rd 05, 05:05 AM
Jose
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I hear ya, but....

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...08X07722&key=1

This accident was featured in FLYING magazine's aftermath column a few years ago.


Well, that doesn't have to do with using welder's oxygen. It has to do
with using air instead of oxygen. A mistake, yes, but mistakes can
occur in any stage of the chain.

Jose
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