Don't fly here...

One nice thing about flying into "dangerous" places via GA is that you
can pack your pistol without any hassles. :^)

kontiki wrote:
One nice thing about flying into "dangerous" places via GA is that you
can pack your pistol without any hassles. :^)

Well, the connection between "safest" and conceal carry states is
interesting:

At the other end of the scale, the safest cities are named as:
Newton, Massachusetts; No CCW
Clarkstown, New York; No CCW
Amherst, New York;
Mission Viejo, California; No CCW
Brick Township, New Jersey; No CCW
Troy, Michigan; yes
Thousand Oaks, California;
Round Rock, Texas; yes
Lake Forest, California;
Cary, North Carolina. Yes

JG

Well, the connection between "safest" and conceal carry states is
interesting:

At the other end of the scale, the safest cities are named as:
Newton, Massachusetts; No CCW
Clarkstown, New York; No CCW
Amherst, New York;
Mission Viejo, California; No CCW
Brick Township, New Jersey; No CCW
Troy, Michigan; yes
Thousand Oaks, California;
Round Rock, Texas; yes
Lake Forest, California;
Cary, North Carolina. Yes

It's suggestive when presented this way, but deceptively so IMHO (though
I agree with the premise). At least three out of the top ten are "yes"
and at least four of the top ten are "No". The top ten does not span
the range of risk, so the data is not very convincing.

Jose
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Jay,

I am quite familiar with quite a few cities on both list having
lived in Michigan, Massachusetts, New York and have brothers and
sisters spread out from the East Coast to West Coast. If you fly
commerical airlines, many times, you don't have any choices but to land
at big airports in the so-called crime cities. Unless one get really
lost, got off the wrong exit etc and wander into bad neighborhoods,
thousands and thousands of passengers have safely flown in and out of
Detroit, St. Louis etc.

Small GA airports can locate anywhere big or small cities but from
my limited flying experience in the last 5 years, most appear to locate
in nice areas free of crimes.

Of course it is expected that big cities with many ghetto areas are
not as safe as tony suburbs. Your average criminal don't live in
expensive neighborhood and the rich tax base helps to provide good
local services including police protection. Sometimes it seems that
too much wealth is concentrated in too few areas. Of course poverty is
no excuse for crimes but there is a strong linkage. It's the chicken or
the egg question.

Hai Longworth

Anyone regularly fly out of any of these cities? Are they as bad as
they make them sound?

I live in Richmond; perhaps someone saw my flying and bumped us up on the
list?

We're slipping though; I think at one time we were second only to D.C.. We
can't seem to do anything right.

But seriously, it sure doesn't seem as bad as you might expect. Every town
has it's problem areas, and ours is obviously no exception, but it has
enough good things about it to warrant staying and helping it improve. Most
people I know who move to greener pastures end up right back here.

Further, the statistics for Richmond (and perhaps other cities as
well) are skewed in that the crime stats for the City do not include
the suburbs in the surrounding counties that normally balance out the
crime rate. As a homeowner in Richmond and a resident in DC, I feel
much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

"Brad" wrote in message
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Further, the statistics for Richmond (and perhaps other cities as
well) are skewed in that the crime stats for the City do not include
the suburbs in the surrounding counties that normally balance out the
crime rate.

That's why the stats ar for cities, not metro areas.

As a homeowner in Richmond and a resident in DC, I feel
much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

I'd feel safer anywhere besides DC.

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Brad" wrote in message
oups.com...
Further, the statistics for Richmond (and perhaps other cities as
well) are skewed in that the crime stats for the City do not include
the suburbs in the surrounding counties that normally balance out the
crime rate.

That's why the stats ar for cities, not metro areas.

Which is why these stats are meaningless.


As a homeowner in Richmond and a resident in DC, I feel
much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

I'd feel safer anywhere besides DC.

Depends where in DC

Brad wrote:

much safer in Richmond than I do in DC...especially in the air

Yo - what's with this moving crap?

e me.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
The list of the "Ten Most Dangerous Cities in America" was released
today.

Listed as the most dangerous cities a Camden, New Jersey; Detroit,
Michigan; St. Louis, Missouri; Flint, Michigan; Richmond, Virginia;
Baltimore, Maryland; Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; Gary,
Indiana; Birmingham, Alabama.

snip

Anyone regularly fly out of any of these cities? Are they as bad as
they make them sound?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Atlanta ain't bad. Like anywhere else, there are neighborhoods you don't
want to enter, but the vast majority of the city is a very nice place.

I'd guess the statistics around Atlanta are very skewed. Probably 1.5
million or 2 million people work in the city, but well under a million
people actually live inside the city lines. If a crime happens to a
commuter, it counts in the numerator part of the crime statistics, but not
in the denominator part... That makes the crimes/person figure look worse
than reality.

KB