Cape Cod Airport Neighbors Sign On!!!

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:


I'm pretty sure the Court is done taking depositions, which would probably
point to a trial date sometime in 2006.

Its wonderful when the legal system works for the victims.

The victims are the law-abiding aerobatic pilots who have had to hire
lawyers to defend themselves against frivolous lawsuits brought by a
rich lawyer and his rich friends. So far, the legal system is working
against the victims.

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:
Unfortunately, many of the "anti-noise" groups are really fronts for
real estate developers who wish to acquire a nice, large, flat area of
land, cheaply, to do their thing -- everybody else be damned. This has
been the case in Concord, CA, Hawthorne, CA, Oceanside, CA, Atlantic
City, NJ and many other sites. All you have to do is look under the
carpet!

These are all desirable sites for economic development. The increase
in tax base
for local governments is huge. And Amtrak service is near all 4
locations you mention.

El Toro and Tustin CA MCAS redevelopment are great examples.

JG

In article .com,
wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
Unfortunately, many of the "anti-noise" groups are really fronts for
real estate developers who wish to acquire a nice, large, flat area of
land, cheaply, to do their thing -- everybody else be damned. This has
been the case in Concord, CA, Hawthorne, CA, Oceanside, CA, Atlantic
City, NJ and many other sites. All you have to do is look under the
carpet!

These are all desirable sites for economic development. The increase
in tax base
for local governments is huge. And Amtrak service is near all 4
locations you mention.

El Toro and Tustin CA MCAS redevelopment are great examples.

JG

Development usually costs local government more than they take in in
taxes -- only the developers make a profit and leave everybody else
holding the bag!

BTW -- I hope that Chicago gets to hold the bag on the Meigs cleanup!

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Orval F wrote: Development usually costs local government more than
they take in in
taxes -- only the developers make a profit and leave everybody else
holding the bag!

BTW -- I hope that Chicago gets to hold the bag on the Meigs cleanup!

If Chicago is sued, they will identify other PRPs to cover the cleanup
cost. This is what happened at Rocky Flats or Rocky Mountain Arsenal
(forgot which), in the late 80s/early 90s. If Chicago has to pay anything
at all for closing down Megis, it will be immaterial.
Bottom line: Megis shutdown is no big deal for the city.

JGrove wrote:
These are all desirable sites for economic development. The increase
in tax base
for local governments is huge. And Amtrak service is near all 4
locations you mention.

El Toro and Tustin CA MCAS redevelopment are great examples.

JG

Yup, subsequent comments to the contrary notwithstanding. Eliminating a
GA airport, which is generally municipally owned and therefore pays no
taxes (in fact, many need local tax support beyond the FAA operating
subsidies -- see Truckee, where a local property tax is levied by the
Airport District), and replacing it with any property tax paying private
entity would be a net positive.

The economic benefit #s thrown about by most GA airports are complete BS:
they usually just add up the payroll of the businesses around the area.

by Orval Fairbairn Dec 6, 2005 at 11:04
PM


In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:


I'm pretty sure the Court is done taking depositions, which would
probably
point to a trial date sometime in 2006.

Its wonderful when the legal system works for the victims.

The victims are the law-abiding aerobatic pilots who have had to hire
lawyers to defend themselves against frivolous lawsuits brought by a
rich lawyer and his rich friends. So far, the legal system is working
against the victims.

So they claim. And verified by FAA investigation (lol).

But this is irrelevant: The state court will decide if state laws are
being violated. That's why the AOPA/American Free Skies Assn, etc are so
upset. They like to cite FAA rules when they allow a pilot to legally
circle a residence at 1000' all day, but hate FAA when they want to raise
fees, etc.

Skylune wrote:

If Chicago is sued, they will identify other PRPs to cover the cleanup
cost. This is what happened at Rocky Flats or Rocky Mountain Arsenal
(forgot which), in the late 80s/early 90s. If Chicago has to pay
anything
at all for closing down Megis, it will be immaterial.
Bottom line: Megis shutdown is no big deal for the city.

Skylune self-corrects (My bad again!! At this rate I could work for
Boyer!): It was Lowry Landfill (not Rocky Flats or the old Arsenal) that
was CERCLA (Superfund) site in early 90s. Lowry was used by lots of
municipalities and other industries. PRPs included the localities, who
had environmental insurance coverage, and big users who were assessed
cleanup costs.

Here is an example of on EPA Consent Decree with a responsible party (in
the case Rockwell International):

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-WAST...10/pr-141.html