Mexico Border TFR No that bad

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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I say why not tethered balloons or blimps with same equipment on board
at intervals and dorder patrols with choppers to have closer looksy
when conditions warrant? Too cost effective to work? Not enough
lobbyist to make money off of this idea?

The cable would require a TFR that would run from the surface, all the way
up to the balloon. Hard to see a cable at night.
--
Jim in NC

The teathered baloons ARE on the border, know of one near big bend area in
TX, and another near Silver City, MN. They don't have TFR's... they have
airspace slightly more restrictive then a TFR... They have plain ole
Restricted Airspace from surface up to fifteen thousand i belive...

I honestly don't see the UAV's doing all that much to help stop immigration,
still gonna take ground troops to intercept the illegals and shipemback.
That said I don't really have a big prob with this particular TFR, the base
is above what most GA traffic will be operating at. It shares a common
border with the ADIZ which involves ATC contact ANYWAY to transit, and with
ATC communicaiton there is the possibility that you can STILL enter and
transit the UAV TFR's. There are very few airports that will be "Under" the
TFR, and even then do you really expect to be reaching 12k feet in 7 miles?

John Doe wrote:

Anyone know why the TFR is ONLY 300nm long and doesn't stretch the entire
border of Mexico?

Other portions of the border are already well covered by other means.

George Patterson
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your slightly older self.

George Patterson wrote:
Other portions of the border are already well covered by other means.

Apparently not well enough, by the looks of the crowd hanging around
the 7-11s in Herndon, VA. The town even suggested building a shelter
and community center especially for them here. A place for them to get
started in life here in the US so they say, a safe place for them to be
picked up by employers. I don't know how that's going.

The Monk

Flyingmonk wrote:

A place for them to get
started in life here in the US so they say, a safe place for them to be
picked up by employers.

We have one of those in Red Bank. It's called the train station.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

George wrote:
Flyingmonk wrote:
A place for them to get
started in life here in the US so they say, a safe place for them to be
picked up by employers.

We have one of those in Red Bank. It's called the train station.

Well the town is actually proposing to use taxpayers money to finance a
place for illegal aliens. The town's not interested in enforcing the
law. The town knows the people are illegals and they want to use legal
money to fund illegal activity.

That's the debate that's hot right now in Herndon.

The Monk

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:

Anyone know why the TFR is ONLY 300nm long and doesn't stretch the entire
border of Mexico?

Other portions of the border are already well covered by other means.

Yep, only a couple million a year getting through the well covered areas.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

"John Doe" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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Of course the AOPA disagrees and I completely understand the slippery
slope but let's face it the little plane should have no problem flying
under the TFR and the big planes should have no problem flying over or
under it.
Since it looks like we are going to have to deal with UAV in the future
we are going to have to do something and a altitude block tha is
reasonable seems like it might be the best idea.


THIS TFR is "not that bad". How long before LAPD wants a UAV to loiter
over L.A. ?



I have no problem giving UAVs a block of sky to fly in. The proposed US/MEX
border TFR is IMHO a pretty damn good compromise.

The most interesting part of this is the cost of the UAV. Many times
that of a C182 with crew. I don't understand why they don't just get a
couple 182 crews with similar equipment installed.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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The most interesting part of this is the cost of the UAV. Many times
that of a C182 with crew. I don't understand why they don't just get a
couple 182 crews with similar equipment installed.

Because the people making the rules don't have any friends in high places
manufacturing 182s and training the crews to fly them.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:46:26 -0800, "Peter Duniho"
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Because the people making the rules don't have any friends in high places
manufacturing 182s and training the crews to fly them.

Was Jack Abramoff ever employed by General Atomics?