Air & Space Museum

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:09:24 -0500, Ron Natalie
wrote:

Parking is easy at Hazy, but it is also being used to defray the
construction expense of the museum, so be prepared to pony up
$12 for the honor of parking at the free museum.

Still a bargain, especially if you fill the mini-van with friends or
kids.

They also now have an annual pass for $65.

Wow. Talk about hard-core aviation nuts!



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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message ...
Cub Driver wrote:
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They also now have an annual pass for $65.

Wow. Talk about hard-core aviation nuts!


Well, I only live 5 miles away from the museum. The other
option is to participate in one of the volunteer opportunities
there.

Hey, I saw Margie's name mentioned in the latest Air & Space "Airplane Meet & Greet" article. "Educator in
Residence". Cool!

Joe Schneider
84237R



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Cub Driver wrote:

For a hard-core aviation nut, no question that the Udvar Hazy annex is
the place to be.

I agree - at least as far as "big" goes. Most important "firsts" are still
downtown, though, and I don't know of any plans to bring SpaceShip1 or
Voyager to Udvar-Hazy. Nonetheless, to get within a couple feet of the
Blackbird, Enterprise, Concorde and Enola Gay is impressive at U-H.

There's a full-bore food facility (just box lunches at U-H,
at least when I was there).

This has changed. The old Subway box lunch is gone while a new full-service
McDonald's has opened next door to the museum shop.

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"John T" wrote in message
m...
Cub Driver wrote:

For a hard-core aviation nut, no question that the Udvar Hazy annex is
the place to be.

I agree - at least as far as "big" goes. Most important "firsts" are
still downtown, though, and I don't know of any plans to bring SpaceShip1
or Voyager to Udvar-Hazy. Nonetheless, to get within a couple feet of the
Blackbird, Enterprise, Concorde and Enola Gay is impressive at U-H.

Speaking of Space Ship 1 does anybody know how the exhaust cone got
crunched? It is very obvious with it hanging up so high.

I'm going to be in Washington for a few days next month. I have
limited time and would like some opinions re the two Air & Space Museum
sites -- at the Mall vs at Dulles. Since I won't have time to do both
sites, which would be the better. We will have a couple of kids with us
also.

As you can see, you have touched a nerve here. The two museums,
although affiliated, are quite different.

IMHO, if you only have time to see one museum, you must go downtown.
This is where all the "Firsts" are -- the Wright Flyer, the Spirit of
St Louis, the X-15, etc. You may never know if you'll have a chance
to get back to D.C., and your kids deserve to have seen "the real
deals" during their limited-time visit.

That said, I vastly prefer Udvar-Hazy. It is an airplane lovers
museum, as opposed to the Smithsonian downtown, which is more into
displays and exhibits. In time (as they get all of their aircraft on
display), I believe U-H will surpass the Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH
in excellence and diversity.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Yeah, and it's a McStarbuck's, too. The name says McDonalds, but the coffee
shop across from the restaurant has lattes, premium coffee and pastries just
like Starbucks, and near their prices, too. I actually thought it was good,
and I was happy to see something a little upscale, without being
ridiculously priced.

There's a full-bore food facility (just box lunches at U-H,
at least when I was there).

This has changed. The old Subway box lunch is gone while a new
full-service McDonald's has opened next door to the museum shop.

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John T wrote:
Cub Driver wrote:
For a hard-core aviation nut, no question that the Udvar Hazy annex is
the place to be.

I agree - at least as far as "big" goes. Most important "firsts" are still
downtown, though, and I don't know of any plans to bring SpaceShip1 or
Voyager to Udvar-Hazy. Nonetheless, to get within a couple feet of the
Blackbird, Enterprise, Concorde and Enola Gay is impressive at U-H.

SpaceShip 1 was actually at Hazy under a tarp for a while before it was
transported downtown. The White Knight is still being contracted out
by Rutan's folks and it remains to be seen if it will be remated with
SS1 if/when the latter arrives at Hazy. Voyager has a rather unique
form factor making it the perfect thing to hang over the visitor
services desk downtown, so it's likely so stay.

The neat thing about Hazy, is that it's not that it has neat aircraft
but it has neat instances of the neat aircraft...not just B-29, the
Enola Gay, not just a Vega, the Winnie Mae, not just a variez, Rutan's
ez. etc...


There's a full-bore food facility (just box lunches at U-H,
at least when I was there).

This has changed. The old Subway box lunch is gone while a new full-service
McDonald's has opened next door to the museum shop.


Yeah upscale McDonald's at highly upscaled prices. We can give you
some restaurant recommendations off-site nearby (much to the chagrin
of the profit making arm of the Smithsonian).

Dave Stadt wrote:
"John T" wrote in message
m...
Cub Driver wrote:
For a hard-core aviation nut, no question that the Udvar Hazy annex is
the place to be.
I agree - at least as far as "big" goes. Most important "firsts" are
still downtown, though, and I don't know of any plans to bring SpaceShip1
or Voyager to Udvar-Hazy. Nonetheless, to get within a couple feet of the
Blackbird, Enterprise, Concorde and Enola Gay is impressive at U-H.

Speaking of Space Ship 1 does anybody know how the exhaust cone got
crunched? It is very obvious with it hanging up so high.



I dunno, but I suspect we can find out. It was sitting out at Hazy
completely wrapped in a blue tarp for a while (although the shape was
rather distictive so you knew what it was). I'll have to ask around.

In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote:

Dave Stadt wrote:
"John T" wrote in message
m...
Cub Driver wrote:
For a hard-core aviation nut, no question that the Udvar Hazy annex is
the place to be.
I agree - at least as far as "big" goes. Most important "firsts" are
still downtown, though, and I don't know of any plans to bring SpaceShip1
or Voyager to Udvar-Hazy. Nonetheless, to get within a couple feet of the
Blackbird, Enterprise, Concorde and Enola Gay is impressive at U-H.

Speaking of Space Ship 1 does anybody know how the exhaust cone got
crunched? It is very obvious with it hanging up so high.



I dunno, but I suspect we can find out. It was sitting out at Hazy
completely wrapped in a blue tarp for a while (although the shape was
rather distictive so you knew what it was). I'll have to ask around.

The story is that the cone was dented on the original flight to 328 Kft;
it was repaired and stiffened in subsequent flights. It was restored to
the dented condition, to make it "authentic" -- to represent the way it
was after the first 328 Kft flight.

On 30 Mar 2006 07:24:46 -0800, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

That said, I vastly prefer Udvar-Hazy. It is an airplane lovers
museum, as opposed to the Smithsonian downtown, which is more into
displays and exhibits

Just so! The Mall museum is pitched really to the general public,
Udvar-Hazy to the aviation / history nuts.

I will not soon forget the knot of Japanese businessmen staring
without expression at the (Japanese) flying suicide bomb. Or, for that
matter, the different Japanese tour group looking down on Enola Gay.



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