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Old February 14th 04, 03:29 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I've noticed that! A couple times in the last 5 years I've been told
to go direct to an NDB. I don't have anyway to find NDBs (well, ok
GPS, but otherwise... ) Do you think there will be a formal
"forgiving" of the NDB assumption by the FAA or will it just become
another GPS waypoint?


I see no need for any change. GPS is a perfectly acceptable means of
navigating to an NDB. There's no need to advise ATC that you don't have
ADF, simply acknowledge the instruction and proceed direct via GPS. The
only shortcoming is you can't use GPS to fly a straight NDB approach.



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Old February 25th 04, 06:49 AM
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If you file to a VOR direct, can ATC clear you along an airway
instead, and expect you to look up the airways? In other words, how
important is to carry an enroute chart if you don't plan on using
airways?


ATC, to the best of my knowledge, can clear you anyway they'd like. I'm
fairly sure you're not all that legal flying IFR without the appropriate
enroute chart. You're surely not safe. How would you know the MEA/MOCA
altitudes?

Surely if you can afford $XX/hour for the plane you can spring for the
chart.

Scott
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Old February 25th 04, 02:02 PM
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Scott wrote:

If you file to a VOR direct, can ATC clear you along an airway
instead, and expect you to look up the airways? In other words, how
important is to carry an enroute chart if you don't plan on using
airways?



ATC, to the best of my knowledge, can clear you anyway they'd like. I'm
fairly sure you're not all that legal flying IFR without the appropriate
enroute chart. You're surely not safe. How would you know the MEA/MOCA
altitudes?

Surely if you can afford $XX/hour for the plane you can spring for the
chart.


I have software for my PDA that does all that now.

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Old February 28th 04, 07:56 AM
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What PDA and software are you using and how do you like it?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Scott wrote:

If you file to a VOR direct, can ATC clear you along an airway
instead, and expect you to look up the airways? In other words, how
important is to carry an enroute chart if you don't plan on using
airways?



ATC, to the best of my knowledge, can clear you anyway they'd like. I'm
fairly sure you're not all that legal flying IFR without the appropriate
enroute chart. You're surely not safe. How would you know the MEA/MOCA
altitudes?

Surely if you can afford $XX/hour for the plane you can spring for the
chart.


I have software for my PDA that does all that now.



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Old February 28th 04, 03:29 PM
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I use NavGps. You type in your cleared route, using airways if that's
how you were cleared. After hitting enter the software adds in all the
intersections. On the main map page the software gives you total
distance as well as leg distance. It's simple to remove or add fixes as
your flight plan gets ammended along the way. It draws the extended
centerline of any runway. You can select as a destination the approach
end of any runway. It has ground data like roads, rivers, obstacles
etc. I haven't flown behind it much but so far I like it.



ross watson wrote:
What PDA and software are you using and how do you like it?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Scott wrote:


If you file to a VOR direct, can ATC clear you along an airway
instead, and expect you to look up the airways? In other words, how
important is to carry an enroute chart if you don't plan on using
airways?


ATC, to the best of my knowledge, can clear you anyway they'd like. I'm
fairly sure you're not all that legal flying IFR without the appropriate
enroute chart. You're surely not safe. How would you know the MEA/MOCA
altitudes?

Surely if you can afford $XX/hour for the plane you can spring for the
chart.


I have software for my PDA that does all that now.





 




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