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("Andrew Sarangan" wrote)
You are making the assumption that most Hispanic laborers at airports are all working illegally. This is one type of misunderstanding that aggravates the situation. Just because someone looks different does not mean they are an immigrant, or even illegal. I know bona fide Americans who are still referred to as immigrants. The misunderstanding is on your part. The influx of "ILLEGALS" has been massive, and rapid. The INS, on their best day (so to speak), couldn't process a tiny fraction of the people who have invaded our country over the last 10 years. The INS is clogged and broken down - we know, we've had a number of friends needing to deal with the INS, becoming citizens. And BTW, aggravate WHAT situation? Oh, I know! The situation of 10's of millions of ILLEGALS flooding our shores. When I see a Mexican on the streets of Minnesota, my assumption is "Illegal". I bet I'm right over 75% of the time. I'm giving you 1 in 4 ...as a peace offering to the God of Diversity. Montblack :-o http://www.filipino-americans.com/ "Hey, I'm not Mexican, I'm Filipino ...No problem, I get that a lot these days." |
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"Montblack" wrote in message
... The misunderstanding is on your part. The influx of "ILLEGALS" has been massive, and rapid. Andrew never said it wasn't. All he said (implied, actually) was that most Hispanic airport workers are legal. Given the background checks they presumably go through, I'd say that's a pretty safe assumption, regardless of what one might think about the prevelance of illegals in other jobs. The INS, on their best day (so to speak), couldn't process a tiny fraction of the people who have invaded our country over the last 10 years. The INS is clogged and broken down - we know, we've had a number of friends needing to deal with the INS, becoming citizens. INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that. I have plenty of personal experience with the INS to confirm your assertion. I'm not clear on how that is relevant to the question of who should be permitted to immigrate to the US, or what to do with those who decide to do so illegally. And BTW, aggravate WHAT situation? Oh, I know! The situation of 10's of millions of ILLEGALS flooding our shores. I love it when people use vague terms like "flooding". A word like that, in this context, has no use but to evoke an emotional response in an attempt to bypass rational analysis of the issue. Especially when you use made-up numbers like "10's of millions". As of 2003, the *TOTAL* estimated number of illegal immigrants living in the US was fewer than 10 million (7 million, to be exact). It's not even ONE ten million, never mind "10's of millions". Compare that to the US birth rate (4 million annually), and the *legal* immigration rate (about 1 million annually). In other words, every 18 months the United States adds the same number of legal residents as the TOTAL number of illegal residents. With an estimated annual increase of illegal residents of only 350,000, illegal residents account for less than 7% of the population growth in the US. A significant number, to be sure, but hardly "flooding" IMHO. When I see a Mexican on the streets of Minnesota, my assumption is "Illegal". I bet I'm right over 75% of the time. It seems to me that that has more to do with the relative proportion of legal and illegal Mexicans within the US than it does with the total number of illegal immigrants (even assuming you're right as often as you think). Pete |
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On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:21:32 -0500, Montblack wrote:
I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish with this boycott? It could have an unforeseen negative result for the ILLEGALS ...I mean, "guest workers". Remeber, it is May 1st. A traditional socialist day (in the old world). #m -- "We're out of toilet paper sir!" http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html |
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Trouble is there are a lot of companies that seek illegal,
undocumented labor, such as motels and hotels Yep, the lodging industry is one of the prime culprits in this problem. Yet, I've been in an email mosh pit over this issue with "human resource professionals" from big-chain hotels, some of who are bashing me for being "unfair" to "workers" and "denying their rights" by not hiring documented Americans! These so-called "professionals" have deluded themselves into thinking that it's somehow okay to hire illegal aliens (because "Americans don't want to do that kind of work"), and that these illegals somehow have rights that supercede the law. It disgusts me, and I'm ashamed of my industry. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Um, first of all...any illegal immigrant dumb enough to reveal their status
as an illegal by participating in a boycott by only illegal immigrants deserves to get deported. What a great idea! However, I don't think the vision of hundreds of busses lined up, so that the protesting illegals can be promptly shipped back home is what you had in mind? Secondly, in this particular case, the boycott *is* by ALL immigrants, legal or otherwise. I don't know if everyone who's replied so far just didn't bother to read the news, or if they are reading news that sucks, but my news sources are all in agreement that the proposed boycott is by all immigrants, not just illegals. Right. And Iran is building reactors to produce electricity. Legal immigrants have NOTHING to protest. In fact, of the many legal (recent) immigrants I know, ALL are directly and vehemently opposed to ANY kind of "amnesty" for the illegals. We're ALL "immigrants" to America, Pete. The purpose of this boycott is to highlight the so-called "importance" of illegal aliens to our economy, so that Congress doesn't "criminalize" (I LOVE that term -- as if it's not already criminal to be here illegally) being in this country illegally. (This is almost a direct quote from a boycott organizer that I just heard interviewed on NPR, by the way. We almost died laughing...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() Jay Honeck wrote: We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. |
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I think that the media personnel are simply telling us that THEY won't work
these jobs. ![]() We honestly don't have a hard time finding help. It's convenient for the locals and pays better than Wal Mart. Jim "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message ups.com... But Jim, the media tells us that Americans (Hispanic origin or not) will not work these jobs. You can't be telling us that the T.V. is lying to us, can you?? -Robert Jim Burns wrote: Our current payroll is 73 people, half of which are Hispanic. Of the half that are Hispanic, about half are citizens via birth and have lived locally for years. |
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We're ALL "immigrants" to America
No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"?
How far back do you want to go? There were native Americans here, and some of those folks have families. Some of them even have families with other native Americans. Jose -- The price of freedom is... well... freedom. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Peter Duniho wrote on 04/30/06 22:46:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... Tomorrow is the so-called "Immigrant Boycott", planned so that illegal aliens can make a show of their economic clout in America by staying home from work. Um, first of all...any illegal immigrant dumb enough to reveal their status as an illegal by participating in a boycott by only illegal immigrants deserves to get deported. That alone should suggest there's something fishy with the idea that this is a boycott by illegal immigrants only. Secondly, in this particular case, the boycott *is* by ALL immigrants, legal or otherwise. I don't know if everyone who's replied so far just didn't bother to read the news, or if they are reading news that sucks, but my news sources are all in agreement that the proposed boycott is by all immigrants, not just illegals. Well, I am a naturalized citizen, i.e., an immigrant, and I have other things to do than to walk on the street... -Joe |
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