It is costly fuel. Right?

On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:45:09 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote:
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Ignore Skylune... He's just ****ed that he was stupid enough to buy a
house right under the flight path of aircraft near some airport... Of
course, he doesn't have balls enough to tell us where he lives so that
we could perhaps avoid his house if at all possible... Or maybe
motivate us to get that relief tube STC.. evil-grin

by Grumman-581 May 24, 2006 at
01:05 AM


On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:45:09 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote:
snip-anti-aviation-dribble

Ignore Skylune... He's just ****ed that he was stupid enough to buy a
house right under the flight path of aircraft near some airport... Of
course, he doesn't have balls enough to tell us where he lives so that
we could perhaps avoid his house if at all possible... Or maybe
motivate us to get that relief tube STC.. evil-grin



it is scary that people such as yourself have license to fly over homes,
schools and businesses. But, your attitude is not uncommon, and will
ultimately result in greater restrictions on GA. bemused smirk

neo wrote:
Mass training
of pilots who can work on pay equal to pay of car-driver is possible.

I don't believe that is true. People have tried to create programming
languages that can be read and understood by non programmers, they have
all been wasting their time. Programming, like flying an airplane, is a
skill that can not be mastered by everyone. This is not meant to be an
insult to anyone. We all have different talents, while some can be
developed, others can not. You need to learn what you can do well, want
you can't, and take advantage of that. Most of the people on the road
can't even drive, do you really think those people could learn to fly
and be even close to safe?


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"Chris W" wrote in message
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neo wrote:
Mass training
of pilots who can work on pay equal to pay of car-driver is possible.

I don't believe that is true. People have tried to create programming
languages that can be read and understood by non programmers, they have
all been wasting their time. Programming, like flying an airplane, is a
skill that can not be mastered by everyone.

It's unclear what you mean. Someone who uses a programming language is a
"programmer".

We haven't gotten to the point where computer languages are trivial for
anyone to use. But keep in mind that human beings have a pretty hard time
using *human* languages too.

Computer languages certainly HAVE become much easier to use, and much more
"foolproof" (inasmuch as anything can be foolproof, which is to say "not
much"). I personally would argue that a really good programmer needs to
understand the minute details of how computers operate, but languages like
Java and C#, never mind technologies like PHP, ASP, Javascript, and Ajax,
have opened programming to a much broader range of people. They make it
easy to do things that used to be quite complicated, and restrict the
"programmer" in ways that avoid the most common and dangerous errors.

Likewise, aviation has gotten MUCH easier since its inception, and while
progress is slow, there's no reason to believe it's impossible to make it
available to "the masses". To state that "Most of the people on the road
can't even drive, do you really think those people could learn to fly and be
even close to safe" seriously underestimates technology's ability to remove
obstacles from the path of the unwashed masses.

And yes, when that day comes, flying will be just as annoying a pasttime as
driving can be.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
...

We haven't gotten to the point where computer languages are trivial for
anyone to use.

Where the language is, the logic hasn't necessarily. In the end, it's still
a lot of math.
Quite a bit like flying in that regard.

-c

No, you're wrong. Mass production of airplanes has never
happened. During WWII, we came close, actually built 10-
15- maybe 30,000 of the same basic model, in four years.
Total production by England, Canada, Germany, Italy, and of
course the USA, was still not equal to the production of one
assembly line for one model of Chevy in one year.


Aviation fuel costs more because it is only about 7/10 of
one percent of the refined fuels and it requires special
handling, certification and storage.


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"neo" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Like cars, mass production of personal plane is possible.
Mass training
| of pilots who can work on pay equal to pay of car-driver
is possible.
| But still i do not see planes in sky.
|
| Reason is costly fuel. Am i right?
|

"neo" wrote in message
ups.com...
Like cars, mass production of personal plane is possible. Mass training
of pilots who can work on pay equal to pay of car-driver is possible.
But still i do not see planes in sky.

Reason is costly fuel. Am i right?


nope. but the other replies I've seen haven't explained my point of view on
the issue.

first, when a car gets a flat, you can stop anywhere to fix it. kind of hard
to do while at 5000 ft.

because of that reason, airplanes need to be 99% perfect at all times. this
ramps up the time for inspection, construction, design, and all the other
"little things" that get multiplied when you get to the finished product of
a vehicle.

look at design issues for safety wire. no such thing exists for cars. and
safety wire is on just about everything on airplanes, and needs to be
removed and installed whenever a part is changed, moved, or altered.

if cars had to go through the same thing, cars would last for 100 years but
garage costs would be about $500/hr instead of $150/hr.

"Tater Schuld" wrote in message
...

first, when a car gets a flat, you can stop anywhere to fix it. kind of
hard to do while at 5000 ft.

(Point of note...it's a lot harder to get a flat at 5,000 feet. ; )

-c

I don't think its the inspections that make planes so expensive, I
think its the way they are designed. Older cars continue to run because
they are made out of heavy, solid materials. An airplane is made out of
thin sheets of aluminum that will crack at some point. Its the effort
to make planes light that makes them break more often. Stuff on planes
is safety wired because its lighter than using heavier bolts and nuts.
Cars don't break down because bolts come undone because they have
heavier hardware. Important bolts on cars are usually also pressed on
as well as cotter pinned. Pressing aluminum probably won't have the
same effect.

-Robert