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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote: It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? I started flying 1987. I started riding 2004. Flying is a passion. Riding is kind of neat and useful. -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? New - 1978 Yahmahopper 360. (I was 185 lbs back then!!) New - 1981 Yahmahopper 650 Special II - backrest, luggage rack, roll bar, windscreen. Rode day and night, rain or shine, for three years. Got hit by a (smallish) deer on the 650. I stayed up, the deer went down - gas tank was dented by my knee. I rode around on a my brother's 1978 Honda CB 750A Hondamatic, this spring. Chose not to buy it. That was the first time I was on a bike since Nov of 1984. Still have my bike license. Combined miles over 6 years - 36K, IIRC. Montblack |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
john smith wrote:
In article , Matt Whiting wrote: john smith wrote: In article .com, "Jay Honeck" wrote: It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? Thirty years ago, when I was in college, I thought about riding motorcycles. I decided to so some research and found a collection of medial reports about injuries found in motorcycle accident victims. After reading numerous reports about crushed bones and the long rehabilition process, I decide there would not be a motorcycle in my future. Did you read about the car accidents also? Do you still drive? In a car or truck, I at least have something around me that is going to take the first blow. Airbags and crumple zones work, I have witnessed the results. True, but it is still more dangerous than walking or staying home. Matt |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
Emily wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote: snip It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? No way in hell. I'm afraid of heights and yes, that includes the three feet off the ground on a bike. Waaaaaay too easy to fall off. So why are you reading this ng? :-) Matt |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
Bob Noel wrote:
In article .com, "Jay Honeck" wrote: It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? I started flying 1987. I started riding 2004. Flying is a passion. Riding is kind of neat and useful. You simply haven't yet ridden long enough. I started riding at age 10 or so, flying at 18. Both are passions, but sometimes we have to put our passions on the back burner when kids, mortgages and college bills come along. But I'll be back... Matt |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
Jay Honeck wrote:
It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? Let me leave you with three thoughts: 1) Compound fractures from insufficient sheet metal around you 2) Scrambled brains from no helmet 3) Road rash from no leathers I have taken care of several suffering from 1, 2, and/or 3. It ain't pretty. It ain't fun either... for either of us. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... Having just returned from a 3-day motorcycle camping trip, the riding experience is once again fresh in my mind. (Alas, I don't get to ride much nowadays; but there was a time when Mary and I rode coast-to-coast...) I'm always struck by the similarities between riding and flying. Basically, riding is 2-dimensional flying, with similar handling characteristics and risk factors. The geometry of banking into turns is identical, and the camaraderie with fellow riders is very similar to that seen among pilots. And, of course, the risk of instant death caused by someone else's (or your own) stupidity is always present. That heightened sense of "being alive" is something both riders and flyers seem to crave. It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Riding looks and sounds like such fun - probably as much as flying. BUT, in flying, the "other" guy only causes a very small percentage of the accidents. In riding bikes, the "other guy" causes what, 50% of the accidents? I have a very hard time putting my life in the "other guy's" hands. Especially when s/he isn't paying attention, is talking on a cell phone, isn't looking for motorcycles sharing the road, etc. I'll stick to more or less controlling my own destiny. KB |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com... Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? I bought a Honda CB650 ten years ago. I stopped riding it three years ago when the float valve stuck and it poured a gallon of gasonline on my leg on the way to work. I bought a CBR1000 yesterday. Here we go again. I think the majority of the airplane owners at my airport also own a bike (or 2) |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
Let me leave you with three thoughts:
1) Compound fractures from insufficient sheet metal around you Yep, that sucks. Not much can be done about it, either. 2) Scrambled brains from no helmet Always, always, ALWAYS wear a full-face helmet. Always. 3) Road rash from no leathers Always, always, ALWAYS wear leather on tour. It sucks when it's hot, but road rash hurts more than it sucks. I've been down once, on a 1966 Honda 160 (this would've been in '86 or so, so it was already an "antique"/beater) when I hit gravel. I was wearing a leather coat, gloves and helmet. The ONLY unprotected part of me was my wrist, between my glove and my sleeve -- and it looked like hamburger when I got up. The very first thing that hit the ground was my head -- there was no time to even raise my arm to protect it, even though I was going pretty slowly. The helmet saved the old brain box, for sure. I have taken care of several suffering from 1, 2, and/or 3. It ain't pretty. It ain't fun either... for either of us. I hear what you're saying, but you can either live, or wait to die. I do everything in my power to protect myself (and my riders -- who include my children) from harm, but fully understand that the risks I'm taking are very similar to flying. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Riding vs Flying -- How many here ride?
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote: It used to be that most pilots I knew rode motorcycles, but that seems to be less of a correlation lately. Wot say the group -- do you currently ride a motorcycle? Did you in the past? Let me leave you with three thoughts: 1) Compound fractures from insufficient sheet metal around you This is only much of an advantage below about 40 MPH. Much above that it you're toast if you hit an immovable object. And this holds true with many airplane accidents. They are not built at all for collision protection. And to do so for the speeds involved would simply involve too much weight. 2) Scrambled brains from no helmet Easily remedied as I always wear a helmet. 3) Road rash from no leathers Ditto. I have taken care of several suffering from 1, 2, and/or 3. It ain't pretty. It ain't fun either... for either of us. Is the suffering any less than for people injured in airplane accidents, car accidents, fires, falls, skiing accidents, etc.? The reality is that many people simply have an irrational bias against motorcycles. I'm not sure why, but I come across it all the time. And the really strange part is that many of these folks fly, downhill ski, rock climb, chain smoke, drink like fiends, etc. I consider downhill skiing much more risky than motorcycling. I personally know many more people who have incurred severe injuries from skiing than from motorcycle. And these injuries often never heal well (knees in particular). Everyone has their biases and they seldom are rationally based. That's just life I guess. Matt |
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