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Old July 24th 06, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
steve[_1_]
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

Hi Everyone,

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a backup handheld radio
for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is permitted to use
it so I can contact my family while flying over the local area.

I would use a frequency not used locally for any other purposes.

Your thoughts?

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Thanks,

Steve

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with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
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Old July 24th 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

No, FCC rules control such use of aircraft frequencies.
They can listen to your transmissions to the airport. You'd
can install a Citizen Band or other radio, General Radio
Service
Personal Radio Services Information Page The General Mobile
Radio Service(GMRS) is a personal UHF radio service
available ... The FCC is preparing to implement a new
personal radio service, MURS. ...
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconVall...54/radio2.html
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[PDF] FCC 601 FCC Application for Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau ... File Format: PDF/Adobe
Acrobat - View as HTML
applicable radio service rules found in Parts 22 and
90 of the Commission's ... FCC 601 - Main Form. August
2002 - Page 4. General Certification Statements ...
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What is GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service)? The apply for a
GMRS license, use the FCC's Universal Licensing System. ...
visit the FCC's page on General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS).
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"steve" wrote in message
. ..
| Hi Everyone,
|
| Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a
backup handheld radio
| for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is
permitted to use
| it so I can contact my family while flying over the local
area.
|
| I would use a frequency not used locally for any other
purposes.
|
| Your thoughts?
|
| --
| Thanks,
|
| Steve
|
| "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk
the Earth
| with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been,
and there
| you will always long to return"
| - Leonardo Da Vinci
|
|


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Old July 24th 06, 07:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_3_]
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?


"steve" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Everyone,

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a backup handheld

radio
for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is permitted to

use
it so I can contact my family while flying over the local area.

I would use a frequency not used locally for any other purposes.

Your thoughts?


There are no airband frequencies used for contact for other than official
communications. The only exception is for people that hold special
liscenses for research and development.

One problem is, that while you are airborne, your signal will carry for
many, many miles, so you can not predict what is an unused frequency.

I would suggest that you use a small family band radio, like they sell at
WallMart, or where ever. While they are probably not technically allowed to
be used in the air, there is little chance anyone will put up a fuss.
--
Jim in NC

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Old July 24th 06, 06:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

Good advice from Morgans. One problem you are going to have is that the
ground station is going to have a hell of a time understanding what you are
saying due to the cabin noise. One way to overcome this is to get your
"ham" or amateur radio license, which gives you the right to "diddle" with
your radio to get the noise-cancelling aircraft headset microphone to
modulate the radio.

Jim



"Morgans" wrote in message
...

I would suggest that you use a small family band radio, like they sell at
WallMart, or where ever. While they are probably not technically allowed
to
be used in the air, there is little chance anyone will put up a fuss.
--
Jim in NC



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Old July 24th 06, 07:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

One problem you are going to have is that the
ground station is going to have a hell of a time understanding what you are
saying due to the cabin noise.


Actually I have used an FRS radio quite successfully air to ground.
It's great line of sight and works quite well. You don't have fifty
mile range, but for short distances it's worth a go.

Jose
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Old July 24th 06, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?



Jose wrote:

One problem you are going to have is that the ground station is going
to have a hell of a time understanding what you are saying due to the
cabin noise.



Actually I have used an FRS radio quite successfully air to ground. It's
great line of sight and works quite well. You don't have fifty mile
range, but for short distances it's worth a go.


I have seen some with external mic and antenna connections.

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Old July 24th 06, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
[email protected]
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well you could always tune to 123.45. But i would be carefull and
always take pilot lang.

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Old July 24th 06, 07:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_1_]
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

RST Engineering wrote:
Good advice from Morgans. One problem you are going to have is that the
ground station is going to have a hell of a time understanding what you are
saying due to the cabin noise. One way to overcome this is to get your
"ham" or amateur radio license, which gives you the right to "diddle" with
your radio to get the noise-cancelling aircraft headset microphone to
modulate the radio.


All of my handheld FRS radios (Kenwood & Motorola) have external mic &
speaker connections. If my headset mic didn't modulate the radio
properly, an FRS handheld mic could be used, and the audio could be
patched into an aux input of the headset or an aftermarket cell phone
adaptor.

No license required.
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Old July 24th 06, 08:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

Legal? No. However it is done all the time.



steve wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I purchased a backup handheld radio
for cross country flights, etc. and was wondering if it is permitted to use
it so I can contact my family while flying over the local area.

I would use a frequency not used locally for any other purposes.

Your thoughts?

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Old July 25th 06, 11:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Cub Driver
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Default Using radio to contact persons on ground while flying?

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:15:35 -0700, "steve"
wrote:

Your thoughts?


When boaters do this, the on-shore phone is known as "xxxx mobile" or
by the name of the boat's dinghy. However, boaters are not as
high-profile as pilots.

You could, I suppose, address the other person as "yellow Cessna" or
some such, on the air-to-air freq.


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