How many pilots are using technology

Every electronic or optical medium developed thus far deteriorates with age at a much faster rate than does paper.

.... and the most important "aging" effects is from the software. I have
plenty of documents I can no longer read because the software is
incompatible with today's versions, and the old software is incompatible
with today's hardware, and the old hardware no longer works.

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On 2006-07-27, Jose wrote:
Every electronic or optical medium developed thus far deteriorates with age at a much faster rate than does paper.

... and the most important "aging" effects is from the software. I have
plenty of documents I can no longer read because the software is
incompatible with today's versions, and the old software is incompatible
with today's hardware, and the old hardware no longer works.

If the documents are underneat not encrypted, and not in any weird
character set, it is possible to recover them without too much
difficulty (although the formatting will be gone).

I suspect non-proprietary formats though (such as jpg or png for images)
will have a much longer shelf life than proprietary document formats.

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how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts.

I would say, the vast majority.

How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

Remember the paperless office? Rephrase your question: How many people
are using computers in their office? Next question: When will the
paperless office come?

Paper has this really great user interface...

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Paperless office does not mean absolutely no paper. It just means every
document is stored electronically, and we can print only what we need.
In that respect, I think we already have a paperless office. What
fraction of electronic documents do you think we normally print out? I
suspect it is around 10% or less. Imagine what would happen if we
printed all the data that is on every computer.




Thomas Borchert wrote:
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how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts.

I would say, the vast majority.

How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

Remember the paperless office? Rephrase your question: How many people
are using computers in their office? Next question: When will the
paperless office come?

Paper has this really great user interface...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

What
fraction of electronic documents do you
think we normally print out? I
suspect it is around 10% or less.

Maybe so, but there are ten times as many documents as there were,
mainly because it's so easy to generate them. And we print out the
silliest things, and we print out stuff because the software gives us no
choice (like TurboTax's "smart worksheets" - don't get me started), and
we print them out multple times to get them right, and we print
everything on full sheets of paper, no matter how big the document.

If you had electronic charts in the cockpit, how many of you would print
them out for the approach. I would.

Jose
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I remember when we went to a paperless office, out paper bill went up 200%. And
the paper bill has gone up steadily each year since.

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:59:52 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

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how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts.

I would say, the vast majority.

How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

Remember the paperless office? Rephrase your question: How many people
are using computers in their office? Next question: When will the
paperless office come?

Paper has this really great user interface...

GeorgeC

On 25 Jul 2006 10:02:28 -0700, "
wrote:

I would like to know, how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts. How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

I've always been an "Early Adopter" when I could afford it and my
degree and profession are in computer science. Having said that I use
a portable GPS and even fly IFR using it. I also have RNAV in the
panel. The rest of the stuff is "gadgets" to me. If I can bring the
charts up on the panel (moving map display and approach charts) that
is fine, but costs too much and I'd not abandon paper charts for VFR,
Enroute, or approach. The GPS makes flying much easier. Having the
approach charts on GPS is even finer, but again I'd never give up the
paper as its batteries never die although they do fly out the door
seal once in a while.

As to the paperless office, I heard about that long before I started
on my degree. The paperless office is as fictitious as "zero
defects". Both are unobtainable with today's technology AND
REGULATIONS. With computers the paperwork has at least doubled as you
not only have to keep the original records, you also have to document
and keep records of the computers and their programs.

If there is any office out there that has reduced their paper work by
using computers, they don't realize how dangerous a game they are
playing. I made very good money playing this game and I know there
are many out there that think they are saving money. The ones that
still use all the paper are either the smart ones or the ones that
have already gotten bit by the monster they created.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger wrote:

I've always been an "Early Adopter" when I could afford it and my
degree and profession are in computer science. Having said that I use
a portable GPS and even fly IFR using it. I also have RNAV in the
panel. The rest of the stuff is "gadgets" to me. If I can bring the
charts up on the panel (moving map display and approach charts) that
is fine, but costs too much and I'd not abandon paper charts for VFR,
Enroute, or approach. The GPS makes flying much easier. Having the
approach charts on GPS is even finer, but again I'd never give up the
paper as its batteries never die although they do fly out the door
seal once in a while.

Your batteries fly out the door seal? You must have that new really,
really thin battery technology! :-)


Matt

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:19:44 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Roger wrote:

I've always been an "Early Adopter" when I could afford it and my
degree and profession are in computer science. Having said that I use
a portable GPS and even fly IFR using it. I also have RNAV in the
panel. The rest of the stuff is "gadgets" to me. If I can bring the
charts up on the panel (moving map display and approach charts) that
is fine, but costs too much and I'd not abandon paper charts for VFR,
Enroute, or approach. The GPS makes flying much easier. Having the
approach charts on GPS is even finer, but again I'd never give up the
paper as its batteries never die although they do fly out the door
seal once in a while.

Your batteries fly out the door seal? You must have that new really,
really thin battery technology! :-)

Yah ever take a look at the gap under a Cherokee 180's door without
the rubber seal?:-))

But yes, the batteries in the paper charts are really thin and never
go dead. Unfortunately they don't handle water well.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Matt
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger wrote:

Yah ever take a look at the gap under a Cherokee 180's door without
the rubber seal?:-))

It can happen with a door seal too. The door hardware gets old and
bent and the gaps can be there even with a seal. I'm planning on
redoing my hardware and rehanging the door because I found a gap at the
bottom of the door that I didn't know was there.

I was on the first test flight with my new engine and my IA handed me
the break-in instructions just before takeoff for a 45 min. orbit over
the field. Once I got to altitude, I grabbed the sheet and laid it on
the passenger seat for reference. 2 seconds later, right before my
eyes, the sheet vanished without a sound. Apparently, I had a gap on
the bottom side of the door. Fortunately, I'd already memorized the
instructions.

I was just hoping that the sheet didn't float down and land in front
of my IA. He might have taken it personally :-))

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)
Flying site : http://www.johngalban.com/