PA-28-140 Cherokee advice

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

Why?

Don't spin it.

Why?

When I did my spin training for my CFI certificate in 1973 we did it in a
140. It doesn't want to spin, but once it does it does so normally and
predictably.

Rod

read ACE 97-02 on the FAA Web page..

BT



Don't spin it.

Why?

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

Why?

Because it probably has both a vacuum driven artificial horizon and a
directional gyro, both rather costly instruments. When you spin the
plane you'll cause the gyros to tumble, which is very hard on the
bearings and other moving parts inside these instruments and will
contribute to their premature failure. For each time you watch an AI or
DG tumble around, picture in your mind the sights and sounds of an old
timey cash register going "ka-ching" "ka-ching" with dollar signs and
numbers in the several hundreds showing in the display.

Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

I spin mine on a regular basis. With proper technique and attention
to W&B, it's not much different than spinning a 152 or 172.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Re spins:

I agree with John. The c of g for utility operations has to be observed
in the Cherokee 140: there have been 140 accidents where pilots spun
the airplane with the c of g too far aft, rendering the spin
unrecoverable. But then, most any airplane will be unrecoverable in a
spin if the c of g is too far aft.

With the c of g in the proper place, the airplane is reluctant to spin,
and will usually fly itself out of one if you just let go of the
controls.

Wayne Cochrane

C-GNGX 1975 PA28-140


John Galban wrote:
Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

I spin mine on a regular basis. With proper technique and attention
to W&B, it's not much different than spinning a 152 or 172.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

http://www.piperowner.com/

http://www.piperowner.com/

I will "second" Dan's recommendation. The Cherokee Pilots Assocation
is a class act, with a terrific annual fly-in convention, and an
outstanding chat room called (not surprisingly) "Cherokee Chat" --
which you can only access with membership.

Membership also includes a subscription to their monthly magazine. I
highly recommend it.

Also, with regards to the 140, a few things:

1. Don't try to carry 4 adults, unless the back seaters are double
amputees.
2. Don't expect it to be a great performer. It's adequate in cool
weather, sluggish in hot weather, very forgiving, and can be landed on
a dime with practice.
3. Landing at night with that single GE 4509 shining out front is a
drag. Taxiing at a dark, unfamiliar airport is REALLY a drag.
4. The original stock panel lighting is, um, marginal, especially in
the early models.
5. It should have the auto-gas STC, which allows you to use regular
unleaded car gas in that Lycoming O-320. Use it -- you'll save over
$50 per tank-full, and the engine will thank you for not clogging it
with lead.

If it doesn't have the STC -- get it. (Unless you're trapped in one of
the states that have recently mandated the use of ethanol in all
gasoline -- in which case you're out of luck.)

The 140 is a great first plane -- a 2 adults + 2 kids plane with good
range and better-than-150/152 performance, at a great price. Fly it
everywhere, and enjoy that nice, 7 gph fuel burn!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"