Deer Strike

Gee, why don't you write something for me and IF I agree
with what you think I should say I'll post a comment.

You can be MY instructor IF you can do so safely and not
waste my time.




"Peter Duniho" wrote in
message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:111Lg.6906$SZ3.5449@dukeread04...
| We can learn and alter our perceptions. But to do so
| safely, we have instructors and training. Or you can
follow
| the "Hey, watch this" learning method and the survivors
| learn if they remember after the drunken state wears
off.
|
| And that's relevant to the statement "There's nothing in
their brains that
| can reconcile another creature moving at 45-60 mph" how?
|
| Humans are incapable unless trained by life experiences.
| The fact that cars still try to beat trains, that
| pedestrians step out in front of cars, that ...
|
| And that's relevant to the statement "There's nothing in
their brains that
| can reconcile another creature moving at 45-60 mph" how?
|
| Remember, humans have a brain that can think ahead,
animals
| brains may remember, but an animal can not see a parked
car
| and think about the tires being flat, the driver drunk
and
| passed out, the paint shines but will fade in the sun,
and
| all the thousands of things humans do think about.
|
| And that's relevant to the statement "There's nothing in
their brains that
| can reconcile another creature moving at 45-60 mph" how?
|
| Nothing in your post in any way addresses the original
comment. Did you
| have a point relevant to the original comment or my reply?
If so, you might
| want to post *that*.
|
|

And some would say your comments have even less to back them
up than a run of the mill game warden or maybe he is a PhD
wildlife biologist who has studied animal behavior for
decades? I don't know, but I watched horses and dogs for
over twenty years and I could tell you what I remember, but
I did not write it all down, with footnotes, so I guess it
doesn't count.




"Peter Duniho" wrote in
message ...
| "John Gaquin" wrote in message
| . ..
| There's nothing in their brains that can reconcile
another creature
| moving at 45-60 mph.
|
| You say that based on what facts?
|
| Observable behavior, and an explanation offered some
years ago by a game
| warden in response to essentially the same question.
|
| People get run over by cars all the time. That doesn't
prove that "there's
| nothing in their brains that can reconcile another object
[creature] moving
| at 45-60 mph". It just proves that an individual human
misjudged the
| situation.
|
| Your game warden reference is meaningless, assuming he
just a
| run-of-the-mill game warden, as opposed to one that has
done some sort of
| in-depth biological study of the brain responses of deer
(frankly, I doubt
| *anyone* has done such a study, but I think it's a safe
guess your game
| warden hasn't).
|
| If you have acceptable facts upon which to refute such a
claim, please
| share them.
|
| I claim that you are in fact a hideous, green oozing
monster who simply
| pretends to be human. You are disguised with a
supernatural effect that not
| only hides your genuine appearance, it prevents you from
even knowing your
| true identity. In fact, the supernatural effect is known
ONLY to me, for
| reasons unknown even to me.
|
| If you have acceptable facts upon which to refute my
claim, please share
| them.
|
| Pete
|
|

Antelope will dive under a fence wire that is a foot off the
ground but not jump over it. Seen it happen more than once.
Antelope taste good.



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| John Gaquin wrote:
| "Peter Duniho" wrote in
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|
| People get run over by cars all the time.
|
| LOL now there are two who have no idea why deer run in
front of cars, yet
| are willing to insist that my posit is dead wrong.
|
| I love reading people in an argument!
|
| I have no idea whether deer can understand something
moving at aircraft
| speeds. I don't know whether they can comprehend that or
not.
|
| But....some critters have a natural response that we might
misread. I
| have observed that antelope will run a straight line (at
speeds up to
| 60 mph, by my car's speedometer) while running "from" a
car. Funny
| thing is, they might run parallel to the path of the
car/road. I have
| observed--and been told--that they won't jump a fence, but
will run a
| heck of a long way. They CAN jump, but usually don't.
Why not?
| Because for, oh, a half a million years or so, their main
defense has
| been speed. Just run. Fast and straight. Not much can
keep up with
| them.
|
| A deer's main defense is freezing. I don't know why they
jump in front
| of the vehicle, but they do.
|
| Don't read human behavior into animals. They aren't
human. They
| reason quite well for their world, but it can be difficult
for them to
| adapt as fast as we do.
|
| cheers.
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:LZ5Lg.6937$SZ3.4910@dukeread04...
Gee, why don't you write something for me and IF I agree
with what you think I should say I'll post a comment.

I'm not sure what your point is, yet again.

You are the one who replied to MY post, disagreeing with it. But you failed
to make any relevant points in your disagreement.

Why should I not respond, pointing out the lack of relevant points in your
disagreement? Should you expect to call into question any post you like,
without any rebuttals whatsoever?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:c46Lg.6938$SZ3.1122@dukeread04...
[...] I could tell you what I remember, but
I did not write it all down, with footnotes, so I guess it
doesn't count.

Nope, it doesn't.

Relevant too whom?



"Peter Duniho" wrote in
message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:LZ5Lg.6937$SZ3.4910@dukeread04...
| Gee, why don't you write something for me and IF I agree
| with what you think I should say I'll post a comment.
|
| I'm not sure what your point is, yet again.
|
| You are the one who replied to MY post, disagreeing with
it. But you failed
| to make any relevant points in your disagreement.
|
| Why should I not respond, pointing out the lack of
relevant points in your
| disagreement? Should you expect to call into question any
post you like,
| without any rebuttals whatsoever?
|
|

Before clay tablets, did humans learn anything?




"Peter Duniho" wrote in
message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:c46Lg.6938$SZ3.1122@dukeread04...
| [...] I could tell you what I remember, but
| I did not write it all down, with footnotes, so I guess
it
| doesn't count.
|
| Nope, it doesn't.
|
|

("John Gaquin" wrote)
....other than the apparent inability to judge speed and/or closure rate
on vehicles moving at those speeds. Or perhaps many deer just have poor
vision across the board. I don't know. But I have observed, and asked,
and received what seemed a plausible explanation from a person who had
studied wildlife, so I accept that until confirmed information comes my
way. Do you have any of that confirmed information, Jose? If not, then
you're no better off than I am, are you?


I do know deer have a 'rods and cones' thing going on in their eyes. Nature
sacrificed some depth perception so it could bulk up on movement receptors.

The resulting depth perception /issue/ makes avoiding oncoming motorcycles
difficult for Bambi.

....1981.


Montblack

("r. mutt" wrote)
The deer have a greater right to be there than you do bozo. The deer are
on the ground walking and you're flying around in an unnatural contrivance
in order to satisfy your need for ego gratification. No sympathy here.


Who conferred upon deer this right?


Montblack

I do know deer have a 'rods and cones' thing going on in their eyes. Nature sacrificed some depth perception so it could bulk up on movement receptors.

The resulting depth perception /issue/ makes avoiding oncoming motorcycles difficult for Bambi.

Interesting. Does it also make avoiding oncoming tigers difficult?

Jose
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