a diaper wearing, bb-gun touting female astronaut goes psycho in love-triangle

Do the title words "bb-gun touting" indicate she encourages the use of
bb-guns?

Tex

Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

A truly bipolar personality would never get close to qualifing for
NASA training.

I'm not so sure. How do you explain Lisa Nowak?

Oh I didn't say she wasn't nuts now. Bipolar and a lot of other mental
illnesses can come on later in life. But to pick nits she hasn't been
diagnosed with anything yet. Though I'm sure her lawyers will parade a bunch
of them before this is all over.



I do find it very interesting that you equate a personality type
that in the real world is one almost always tied to success as a
mental illness.

Sometimes mental illness can lead to success. A lot of successful
people have had psychological problems.

And a lot more successful people didn't. It is the exception NOT the rule.

On Feb 6, 11:12 am, "AirRaid" wrote:
Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. - A NASA astronaut charged with attempting to kidnap a
romantic rival in a love triangle with another astronaut was allowed
to go free on bail Tuesday on the condition that she not contact the
alleged victim.
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The judge toldLisaMarieNowakshe could be released on $15,500 bond,
then asked if she understood the conditions. She responded "yes."

Nowak, a married mother of three, stood in a jail uniform, looking
down during most of the hearing. She planned to return home to
Houston, and the judge ordered her to wear a tracking device.

The 43-year-old robotics specialist faces charges including attempted
kidnapping, attempted vehicle burglary with battery, destruction of
evidence and battery.

Police said she drove 900 miles, donned a disguise and was armed with
a BB gun and pepper spray when she confronted a woman she believed was
a competitor for the affections of Navy Cmdr. William Oefelein, an
unmarried fellow astronaut.

Nowakrode aboard Discovery in July. Oefelein, 41, piloted the space
shuttle Discovery in December. They trained together but never flew
together.

Nowaktold police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a
working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according
to an arrest affidavit. Police found a love letter to Oefelein in her
car.

According to authorities,Nowakbelieved another woman, Colleen
Shipman, was romantically involved with Oefelein. WhenNowakfound out
Shipman was flying to Orlando from Houston,Nowakdecided to confront
her early Monday, according to the arrest affidavit.

Nowakraced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers in the car so she
wouldn't have to stop to go to the bathroom, authorities said.
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry.

Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, she waited for Shipman's plane to
land and then boarded the same airport shuttle bus Shipman took to get
to her car, police said. Shipman told police she noticed someone
following her, hurried inside the car and locked the doors, according
to the arrest affidavit.

Nowakrapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a
ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches whenNowakstarted crying, the statement said.Nowakthen sprayed a
chemical into Shipman's car, the affidavit said. Shipman drove to the
parking lot booth and police were called.

An officer reported followingNowakand watching her throw away a bag
containing the wig and BB gun. Police also found a steel mallet, a 4-
inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and garbage bags inside a bagNowakwas carrying when she was arrested, authorities said.

Two other astronauts attended the hearing. Steve Lindsey, commander ofNowak'sDiscovery flight last July, testified thatNowakwould obey
the conditions of her release.

Chris Ferguson, a pilot on the mission, also attended the hearing.
Asked afterward aboutNowak'sbehavior, Ferguson said "perplexed is
the word I'm sticking with."

Oefelein and Shipman, who the Houston Chronicle said worked at Patrick
Air Force Base near the
Kennedy Space Center, did not immediately return calls seeking
comment.

NASA spokesman James Hartsfield in Houston said that, as of Monday,Nowak'sstatus with the astronaut corps remained unchanged. "What will
happen beyond that, I will not speculate," he said.

Hartsfield said he couldn't recall the last time an astronaut was
arrested and said there were no rules against fraternizing among
astronauts.

Police saidNowaktold them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into
talking to her about her relationship with Oefelein and didn't want to
harm her physically.

"If you were just going to talk to someone, I don't know that you
would need a wig, a trench coat, an air cartridge BB gun and pepper
spray," said Orlando police Sgt. Barbara Jones. "It's just really a
very sad case."

According to NASA's official biography,Nowakis a Naval Academy
graduate who has a master's degree in aeronautical engineering. She
has a teenage son and younger twin girls.

Oefelein has two children and began his aviation career as a teenager
flying floatplanes in Alaska, according to a NASA biography. He
studied electrical engineering at Oregon State University and later
earned a master's degree in aviation systems at the University of
Tennessee Space Institute. He has been an astronaut since 1998.

___

Associated Press writers Kelli Kennedy and Jessica Gresko in Miami
contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/...onaut_arrested

Sad case it is. And I am disturbed that Lisa Nowak got preferential
treatment in the courts as the modus operandi of any seasoned
prosecutor with a case just as similar is to press for denial of bail
and for the suspect to be kept indefinitely in a mental hospital for
90 days of evaluation. That is the barest minimum you would do with a
psycho in order to protect the general public.

Even more disturbing is the special arrangements to fly her to Houston
accompanied by Steve Lindsey, commander of the flight she flown in
last July. She was allowed to bypass TSA screening and taken directly
to her airplane seat with a coat over her head before the other
passengers got on the plane and was allowed to leave the plane on the
runway and enter a police car for a ride to NASA headquarters for an
evaluation.

I feel NASA threatened to get federal prosecutors on the case and that
intimidated local prosecutors into allowing her to sign out on her own
bail with the understanding she will stay away from the other woman
she was stalking (Colleen Shipman) and wear a GPS monitoring device on
her ankle. THis was a case that should have been prosecuted on the
local level and kept that way vice having NASA interfering by sending
two astronauts to testify on her behalf and one fo them to escort her
home.

Anybody else doing the same thing as Nowak did would be locked up with
bail denied!

Best prediction

Lisa Nowak will be committed to a mental health treatment center in
Houston. On the advice of her attorneys, she will immediately file
for retirement from the US Navy as she has had 21 years of service
after graduating from the US Naval Academy in 1986. This will save
the US Navy from having to consider filing adultery charges against
her under the UMCJ. And Lisa will begin to receive her military
pension.

A plea bargaining deal will be in place to extract an heartfelt
apology from Nowak to Colleen Shipman and for Nowak to continue
receiving mental health care while under probation for five years.
She will agree to stay away from any place in Florida or whereever
Colleen Shipman lives. A trial and a prison sentence would serve no
purpose at all.

As for Navy Commander William Oefelein, if he has the requisite 20
years of service to the military, he will file for retirement and
start drawing a military pension. Again, this will save the Navy of
having to possibly try him for conduct unbecoming an officer under the
UMCJ.

For Air Force Colleen Shipman, I am sure she will file to leave the
USAF to avoid the same kind of inquisition the above mentioned others
could face. Since she graduated from the USAF Academy and has
presumably met the length of service required to help pay off her
tuition, she might do that without suffering any kind of financial
penalty and at the same time allow the USAF to breathe a sigh of
relief at having the problem go away. Even if she did not meet the
length of service to repay her tuition, I am sure the USAF will
quickly grant her a waiver and allow her to go into civilian life.

Will Oefelein and Shipman hook up after the service careers are
ended? Probably not as neither of them want to be recognized by
others in the public as the ones in the famous astronaut sex scandal.
They will want to make a clean break.

The point I am bringing up is those three individuals showed extremely
poor judgment in handling their personal affairs while on military
duty. True Oefelein and Shipman never thought Nowak would do
something so extreme to thrust the three of them in the public
spotlight, they are still responsible for what has happened even
though they did nothing to provoke Nowak's anger. They should
consider themselves very lucky if the military chooses not to
prosecute all of them on adultery and conduct unbecoming an officer
charges.

The lesson to be learned is to think before you do something and it
blows up on you. We have to know that the people in charge of
piloting a 3.5b space shuttle (only three are still in use and two
destroyed) are using good judgment in both their personal and
professional lives 24/7.

James K. Goodwin

writes:

A trial and a prison sentence would serve no purpose at all.

Then why is this the usual procedure for cases of this type when they involve
non-VIPs?

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On Feb 7, 7:38 am, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
Historically, astronaut programs have absolutely loaded with monomaniacal,
driven personalities.

Ron, great post. Thanks. -Jay-

Roy Smith wrote:

We've had Presidents get blowjobs in the oval office.

Now wait a minute... G

How many Americans have caught a quickie at work?

Roy Smith wrote:
The bit about the diaper is just something that fed the media's lust for
anything involving bodily functions. She was using a tool to achieve a
goal that apparently astronauts use on a regular basis. There's threads
almost every day on these newsgroups about how we deal with exactly the
same issues in our airplanes. Not to mention ads in the Sporty's catalog
for products to help solve the problem. Get over it.



"Get over it"? Get over what? This doesn't affect me in the slightest. I
don't know any of these folks. None of them are cousins of mine. I couldn't
care less. I just expressed the thought that it was a damned shame that someone
who seemed to have it so together could unravel so explosively.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:49:16 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote in :


How many Americans have caught a quickie at work?


Sometimes I work naked.
-- From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
Message-ID: et
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:32:24 GMT

On 7 Feb 2007 10:12:07 -0800, wrote in
m:


Anybody else doing the same thing as Nowak did would be locked up with
bail denied!

Rap Sheet he
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...astronut1.html

NASA statement:


Feb. 6, 2007

David Mould/Allard Beutel
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1898/4769

Eileen Hawley/James Rostohar
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-483-5111

RELEASE: 07-23

STATEMENT REGARDING THE STATUS OF LISA NOWAK

The following is a statement from Michael Coats, director of NASA's
Johnson Space Center in Houston, regarding the status of astronaut
Lisa Nowak.

"We are deeply saddened by this tragic event. The charges against
Lisa
Nowak are serious ones that must be decided by the judicial system.
She is officially on 30-day leave and has been removed from flight
status and all mission-related activities. We will continue to
monitor developments in the case."

Denny wrote:

On Feb 6, 5:27 pm, "gatt" wrote:

Something serious must have happened to her, is all I can think. She's a
retired friggin' Navy Captain?!

Her mugshot looks like one of those anti-methamphetamine campaign posters.
She's beyond just fruitbat crazy; she's broken.

-c


RIght on... As a physician the thing that caught my attention was the
difference in appearance and body language between the two shots: her
in a pressure suit a short time before, and her mug shot after... The
mind and body are a single unit and the fact that her mind has a
terrible malfunction is directly reflected in her facial and body
language appearance...

I thought she just looked like she needed a diaper change. :-)

Matt