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Are Planes taking off in Thunderstorms normal?



 
 
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Old May 6th 07, 01:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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"Dan Luke" wrote

There are many, many more, if you care to look.


All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm? I don't, but come on, this is all based on ONE
article, from the MEDIA !!!

The guy asked a loaded question. Did you stop beating your wife? Do you
take off in thunderstorms?

It is certainly not at all clear what the weather conditions were at the
time of THIS takeoff.

We all know that T-storms can take down a plane. Is this the REAL issue,
here?

I doubt it.
--
Jim in NC


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Old May 6th 07, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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William Black writes:

It says heavy rain knocked that one down.


If you feel like flying into a thunderstorm, go ahead. Just make sure
that you're the only person on the plane.


You are an idiot.

Bertie
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Old May 6th 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in news:1178398113.132291.126680
@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

http://www.thenewstribune.com/886/story/55281.html



Taking off in a Thunderstorm and taking off in the vicinity of a
thiunderstorm are two different things. If you don;t fly in the vicinity of
thundrstorms in some parts of the world, and Cameroon would be one of them,
you don;t fly.


Bertie
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Old May 6th 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Aircraft normally wait for thunderstorms to pass before taking off. No
aircraft is safe in a thunderstorm.


You don't fly anyway, fjukktard.


Bertie
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Old May 6th 07, 01:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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wrote in message
ps.com...
On May 5, 5:10 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Aircraft normally wait for thunderstorms to pass before taking off.
No aircraft is safe in a thunderstorm.


So most likely the Kenya Airways flight didn't follow procedure or
receive clearance?


Hard to say not knowing the exact situation, but in my opinion, only a
pilot with a death wish accepts a takeoff clearance in the middle of a
thunderstorm.


It doesn't neceesarily follow that he took off in the middle of a CB...



Bertie
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Old May 6th 07, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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On May 6, 10:26 am, "Morgans" wrote:
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ups.com...http://www.thenewstribune.com/886/story/55281.html

It had waited an hour because of the rain, and so one would think that the
severe part of the thunderstorm had moved out of the flight path.

So under those qualifications, yes, they take off and land with
thunderstorms in the area, all of the time.

Take a look at this page, and scroll down to the file called "FedEx
Diversions" to see how planes will zoom in close to and around
thunderstorms.


I had this idea that that is why all heavies have doppler radar to
avoid the CU's


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Old May 6th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

Hard to say not knowing the exact situation, but in my opinion, only a
pilot with a death wish accepts a takeoff clearance in the middle of a
thunderstorm.


Agreed, but reading between the lines, he had already had a delay of an
hour for rain, so one must think that the thunderstorm was no longer a
factor.
--
Jim in NC


Probably true. It's hard to imagine he throttled up right in the middle of a
thunderstorm.
One thing's for sure. What actually happened and why are seldom what appears
to be the answer during the first 24 hours post accident.
DH


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Old May 6th 07, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. 130...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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wrote in message
ps.com...
On May 5, 5:10 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Aircraft normally wait for thunderstorms to pass before taking off.
No aircraft is safe in a thunderstorm.

So most likely the Kenya Airways flight didn't follow procedure or
receive clearance?


Hard to say not knowing the exact situation, but in my opinion, only a
pilot with a death wish accepts a takeoff clearance in the middle of a
thunderstorm.


It doesn't neceesarily follow that he took off in the middle of a CB...


I agree. To do that would have been against all my sense of logic anyway.
Stranger things have happened, and pilots do indeed from time to time push
weather for one reason or another but I'd hate to second guess this poor guy
at this point. It's been my experience that what appears almost certain
immediately after these things seldom carries through the investigation.
Dudley Henriques


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Old May 6th 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Morgans writes:

All good links, but do your really think that ATC released him to fly
straight into a t-storm?


The pilot is ultimately the boss. If his actions are not contrary to the
safety of other flights, ATC really has no reason not to release him. See
Jessica Dubroff's adventure for an example.

We all know that T-storms can take down a plane.


I dunno. Some people seem unwilling to believe that without "evidence."

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Old May 6th 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
. 130...
Bwawhahwhahhwhahwhahwh!

Doesn't matte rhow much information is available, you wouldn't know what
it meant, fjukkwit.


Bertie


Heyyyyy - Bertie the Butt Nip is back with all of his vast knowledge. Yer
too cool Bertie.


 




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