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Old May 21st 07, 11:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
chris[_1_]
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Default Small twin about to land gear up

On May 22, 8:35 am, Shirl wrote:
"Jose" wrote:
Why not take the dog? Dogs like to fly too.
Maybe he's a bird dog.

"Maxwell" wrote:
Yeah, or maybe an AIRdale.


Yeah, or maybe a SKIPPERkee.

I didn't take my dog ("Rudder") on instructional flights, but I've taken
her pleasure flights ... why not? We take them in the car with us, why
not on the plane? What's so odd about that?


I rent and they're absolutely against dogs in aero club planes. Pity
really, would be nice to go away for the weekend and take the dog...
I was specifically warned about it once our chief met my dog. "I
don't want to see you coming out here with a doggy harness"

Mind you, our dog is terrified of loud noises, so I guess a roaring
airplane wouldn't be her idea of fun.

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Old May 21st 07, 11:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Hmm. That is another thing I did not know. A dog headset... ANR at that.
Who would have thunk it.


haven't found any cat version though, this is blatant discrimination.

--Sylvain

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Old May 21st 07, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Sylvain wrote:
wrote:

Hmm. That is another thing I did not know. A dog headset... ANR at
that. Who would have thunk it.


haven't found any cat version though, this is blatant discrimination.

--Sylvain


Protecting a cat's hearing is not critical. It's not like they listen to
you.


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Old May 21st 07, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Maxwell wrote:
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I don't know. I guess I just do not get "dog people."

I had a dog as a kid, and I liked the dog and all. In the end, I realize
it is just a dog. Some people like to think they are "family" and what
not, but it is just an animal.


If you find yourself saying "It's just a dog", then that says it all.


My thoughts too.
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Old May 21st 07, 11:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Robert M. Gary
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On May 21, 2:09 pm, "Maxwell" wrote:
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I don't know. I guess I just do not get "dog people."


I had a dog as a kid, and I liked the dog and all. In the end, I realize
it is just a dog. Some people like to think they are "family" and what
not, but it is just an animal.


If you find yourself saying "It's just a dog", then that says it all.

In my mind, any society is best judged on the way it treats it's animals.


In fact treating a dog as a person can be quite stressful on the dog.
Dogs have different ideas about social behavior and hierarchy and
trying to force them to live in a way that humans like to live is a
serious disservice to the animal. People who put clothes on their dogs
require psychological help.

-Robert

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Old May 22nd 07, 12:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

Protecting a cat's hearing is not critical. It's not like they listen to
you.


oh, but they certainly do listen, they are just smart enough to ignore
the irrelevant bits. Dogs aren't that refined with all the tail wagging
and all :-)

seriously though: when you carry a dog -- the larger kind -- what kind
of restraint do you use (if any)?

--Sylvain
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Old May 22nd 07, 12:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-05-21 12:11:08 -0700, said:

Is it just me, or didn't anyone else not get CJs original message
here?

Me either. I only saw the reply.

-c


Only the replies, SWBELL.net

Aircraft is a 1969 Cessna 310P, nose gear did not extend. Owner, his dog
and an instructor. Appears all are OK.


Ok... So why would anyone take their dog on an instructional flight, errr,
any flight really??? That is really strange.


For whatever reason. The dog was in the baggage compartment. Some dogs
really like to fly.
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Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old May 22nd 07, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-05-21 11:24:09 -0700, "Maxwell" said:


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 21, 9:39 am, C J Campbell
wrote:
MSNBC is showing a small twin in Florida that is circling an airport.
Apparently he can't get the nose gear down. Probably will have to land
gear up on national news.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


I had to think a bit about what MSNBC was. I've always heard them
referred to as PMSNBC.

-Robert


Is it just me, or didn't anyone else not get CJs original message here?


Oddly enough, even I do not see it!
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Old May 22nd 07, 12:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Shirl
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Shirl wrote:
I didn't take my dog ("Rudder") on instructional flights, but I've taken
her pleasure flights ... why not? We take them in the car with us, why
not on the plane? What's so odd about that?


Mark Hansen wrote:
Nothing odd, but you do have to be careful of CG issues. I remember
hearing about a group of guys that were going hunting and took their
hunting dogs with them. Upon take off, the dogs slid to the aft part
of the cargo area and the plane was rendered uncontrollable.


Yeah, with large dogs, especially two of them, it would/should take more
thought. Mine is a Jack Russell, only 14 lbs, and she happily travels in
a very small doggy crate. She keeps asking for a PTT.

As for them being "just animals", they can provide one heck of a lot of
companionship and enrichment to one's life just the same. I guess what
you don't know you don't miss.
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Old May 22nd 07, 12:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jose
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Dogs have different ideas about social behavior and hierarchy and
trying to force them to live in a way that humans like to live is a
serious disservice to the animal.


True, but that's not why "it's only a dog" is objectionalbe. It's
because the emphasis is not on "dog" but on "only".

People who put clothes on their dogs
require psychological help.


Agreed. But that's not what it's about either.

Jose
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