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Old June 15th 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

Where it talks about category and class ratings being required. Seaplane
is a class of the category airplane.


Actually, I believe the class is "water".



This is like the first week of ground school.


Agreed.


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Old June 16th 07, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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pittss1c wrote in :

I was wondering, does one require a seaplane rating to operate and
amphibian for land?



No, you don't.

In fact, I even instructed in a non-amphib Cessna 185 completely legally
without ever having had a seaplane rating..


How's that for a brain teaser?


Bertie
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Old June 16th 07, 02:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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pittss1c wrote:

I was wondering, does one require a seaplane rating to operate and
amphibian for land?




No, but you need the retractable sign off.

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Old June 16th 07, 01:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Nathan Young
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:35:12 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

Nathan Young wrote:

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FAA has a FAQ on Part 61 which addresses this, specifically it states:

http://afs600.faa.gov/AFS640.htm
Click on the link for: FAQ 14 CFR, Part 61 & 141

******************************


I looked all over for that FAQ because I knew the answer was in there and I
couldn't find it. And even with the link above I can't find it because it
gives a Page Not Found error.


Reference the other link in the top part of my post... It works (at
least as of yesterday).
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Old June 16th 07, 03:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ok, so I have a related question:
With these new LSA amphibs coming out (like the Mermaid), does one fly
them using "sport pilot" privledges? Or does one have to go out and
get SES rating for it? Let's say I buy one and I have a SEL rating
only, can I fly it under sport pilot rules without going out and
getting a SES rating...? I'm inclined to think so, but I'd like to
hear what people say.

What the insurance company says is a whole different can of worms, I
realize! I'm just talking strictly about the FAR's (or the CFR Part
blah, blah, blah...they're still FAR's to me)

-Ryan in Madison, WI

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Old June 16th 07, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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john smith wrote in news:46730b3b$0$3100
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In article ,
pittss1c wrote:

I was wondering, does one require a seaplane rating to operate and
amphibian for land?


I have a PPC with ASEL/IR ratings, tailwheel, high performance and
complex endorsements.
I have 20 hours in an Osprey II amphibean, all land takeoffs and
landing. I flew it to and from Oshkosh in 1989 for the owner/builder.
No big deal except that I am 6'2" and had to slouch down in the seat to
keep my headset from contacting the canopy. Landing with your butt less
than 12" off the ground is interesting.


That doesn't describe anything about the regs, only about the intensity with
which you follow them (or perhaps don't).
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Old June 16th 07, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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pittss1c wrote in :

I was wondering, does one require a seaplane rating to operate and
amphibian for land?



No, you don't.

In fact, I even instructed in a non-amphib Cessna 185 completely legally
without ever having had a seaplane rating..


How's that for a brain teaser?


Bertie


I hope it was before August 1997...
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Old June 16th 07, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Judah wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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pittss1c wrote in
:

I was wondering, does one require a seaplane rating to operate and
amphibian for land?



No, you don't.

In fact, I even instructed in a non-amphib Cessna 185 completely
legally without ever having had a seaplane rating..


How's that for a brain teaser?


Bertie


I hope it was before August 1997...


Doesn't matter when, It was legal, definitely. Local GADO sed so too.

Bertie


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Old June 16th 07, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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" wrote in
ups.com:

With these new LSA amphibs coming out (like the Mermaid), does one
fly them using "sport pilot" privledges? Or does one have to go
out and get SES rating for it? Let's say I buy one and I have a
SEL rating only, can I fly it under sport pilot rules without
going out and getting a SES rating...? I'm inclined to think so,
but I'd like to hear what people say.


From what I've read, here's what I found:

Since the Mermaid has a Vh of greater than 87 KCAS you must have:
A Sport Pilot Certificate with an AP-8 Endorsement ... or
A Recreational Pilot Certificate with SES rating ... or
A Private, Commercial, or ATP with SES rating.

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