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Old July 12th 07, 12:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
El Maximo
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
If I'm told "maintain at or below 3500 make left downwind departure" for a
VFR
departure, do I climb immediately to 3500 (or my intended altitude) or do
I
level off at pattern altitude until I leave the downwind leg of the
pattern?


In case you haven't figured it out yet, you haven't given enough information
to answer your question. There are two key pieces of information missing.

Please..... Nobody tell him.


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Old July 12th 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:05:27 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

If I'm told "maintain at or below 3500 make left downwind departure" for a VFR
departure, do I climb immediately to 3500 (or my intended altitude) or do I
level off at pattern altitude until I leave the downwind leg of the pattern?


Climb to your altitude.
"Downwind" indicates direction of the departure, not altitude.
"Left" means make left turns.
Pattern and its altitude are for landing aircraft.

- Tom
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Old July 12th 07, 09:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tina
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That's a nice point, Tom. We enter landing patterns, not take off
ones.


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Old July 13th 07, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Tom L. writes:

Climb to your altitude.
"Downwind" indicates direction of the departure, not altitude.
"Left" means make left turns.
Pattern and its altitude are for landing aircraft.


OK, thanks!
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Old July 13th 07, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Jul 13, 12:48 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tom L. writes:
Climb to your altitude.
"Downwind" indicates direction of the departure, not altitude.
"Left" means make left turns.
Pattern and its altitude are for landing aircraft.


OK, thanks!


WOW! He actually said "OK" (no more endless arguing back and forth
ad nauseum) and "thanks" (an acknowledgement of appreciation to the
pilot that took the time to answer his question).

I don't know if this is a "first" but it sure is a refreshing change.
Maybe Anthony has turned over a new leaf. On 2nd thought......nah.

--Jeff

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Old July 13th 07, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"JB" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 13, 12:48 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tom L. writes:
Climb to your altitude.
"Downwind" indicates direction of the departure, not altitude.
"Left" means make left turns.
Pattern and its altitude are for landing aircraft.


OK, thanks!


WOW! He actually said "OK" (no more endless arguing back and forth
ad nauseum) and "thanks" (an acknowledgement of appreciation to the
pilot that took the time to answer his question).

I don't know if this is a "first" but it sure is a refreshing change.
Maybe Anthony has turned over a new leaf. On 2nd thought......nah.

--Jeff



Of course, *ALL* of this information could be gleaned from the AIM, right?

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Old July 13th 07, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tina
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There may be low time or no time pilots reading these posts, and the
final exchange with MX would be a useful reminder to them.



On Jul 13, 10:32 am, "DougS"
wrote:
"JB" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Jul 13, 12:48 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tom L. writes:
Climb to your altitude.
"Downwind" indicates direction of the departure, not altitude.
"Left" means make left turns.
Pattern and its altitude are for landing aircraft.


OK, thanks!


WOW! He actually said "OK" (no more endless arguing back and forth
ad nauseum) and "thanks" (an acknowledgement of appreciation to the
pilot that took the time to answer his question).


I don't know if this is a "first" but it sure is a refreshing change.
Maybe Anthony has turned over a new leaf. On 2nd thought......nah.


--Jeff


Of course, *ALL* of this information could be gleaned from the AIM, right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



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Old July 14th 07, 06:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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JB writes:

I don't know if this is a "first" but it sure is a refreshing change.


It is neither a first nor a refreshing change, as anyone who actually read my
posts carefully before replying would already know.
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Old July 14th 07, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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We know that you write a lot, but actually say little, and that you don't
fly at all.


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Old July 19th 07, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If I'm told "maintain at or below 3500 make left downwind departure"
for a VFR departure, do I climb immediately to 3500 (or my intended
altitude) or do I level off at pattern altitude until I leave the
downwind leg of the pattern?




Nobody is ever going to tell you that.

You don't fly

Bertie
 




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