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Old August 13th 07, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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18K would indeed indicate a closer look at the situation :-)


How many have you receive here in the past 24 hours? I have seen around a
1000.


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Old August 14th 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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All this being said, I'm not trying to put anyone down with this post.
I realize this is just me and the way I deal with things, and I respect
everyone else doing whatever they feel they have to do to deal with
Usenet.
Dudley Henriques


This time, it was just plain annoying, to me.

I had probably 400 to 500 sporge (or whatever it is called) in one evening.

It just made the group useless, because it was so hard to find the good
posts.

I did get pretty fast at going though looking for the good posts, but there
were not many that were not bogus.

It was an unusual experience, even for usenet. I wouldn't mind if it never
happened again.

If it was supernews (or whoever it was that sent the warning message a week
ago) sending all the crap, (it seems likely that it was them, or someone
doing it under their direction) I wish they could catch them and fine the
crap out of them, and take away all business licenses away from them, if
that is possible.

No one has the right to do that crap, as far as I am concerned. It is just
the same as someone walking into my house, and dropping their drawers and
taking a big crap in the middle of my living room floor. I know I would
take a swing at them with a 2 X 4 firm on their posterior.

I feel better now. Thanks for listening, everyone! g
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Old August 14th 07, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:05:26 -0400, "Morgans" wrote in :

... If it was supernews (or whoever it was that sent the warning message a week
ago) sending all the crap, (it seems likely that it was them, or someone
doing it under their direction) I wish they could catch them and fine the
crap out of them, and take away all business licenses away from them, if
that is possible. ...


I'm morally certain that it was not Supernews.

I pay them. They don't pay me.

They are one of the best news providers in the business,
in my opinion.

The vandal sent the warning message and signed "Supernews"
to it in order to get folks like you angry at them.

The folks at Supernews aren't vandals.

Marty
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Old August 15th 07, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:34:47 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

Must be just me, but I never have one iota of trouble with these
"issues" and can't figure out why people seem to be so bothered by them.
I've always used forums by scrolling through headers until finding
something I decided from that header was something I might want to read
or answer. If the header was suspect or didn't pique my interest, I just
keep scrolling on down. No biggie at all.


Me too.
I read what I want based on the headers and then mark group read.
Tain't no big thang.

Trolls, idiots, morons, and Mensa dropouts will always be a part of any


Dropouts? I've met a few with astronomical IQs who were really
strange. :-))
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Old August 15th 07, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Roger (K8RI) wrote:

Dropouts? I've met a few with astronomical IQs who were really
strange. :-))


I just checked with Bea. She says you're right. I am strange. :-))


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Old August 15th 07, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Roger (K8RI) wrote:

Dropouts? I've met a few with astronomical IQs who were really
strange. :-))


I just checked with Bea. She says you're right. I am strange. :-))



Not strange, just......different :-)

(I didn't know I could "drop out" of Mensa. Now, letting my membership
lapse....that's a different story altogether

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Old August 13th 07, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It would seem that the rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup, like many
other newsgroups, is being targeted for a "sporge" flood. In this
first flood, the articles were injected into Usenet from 13:30 to
11:21 (local), about ten hours. It is unclear to me at this time why
this is occurring, but it may be more than a malicious prank. ...

While I have not yet found a method of filtering out the sporge
articles, I have found some promising leads:

Each article is crossposted to the sci.crypt newsgroup.

The 'Path:' header field always contains:
news.isoc.lu!news.grnet.gr

The 'Subject:' header field always begins with a lower-case letter

Interesting series of observations.

The feature of the cross posted group (sci.script) is the only criteria that
appears to show promise in OE; however, it appears that the group must be
subscribed in order for the criteria to be entered in the Message Rules.

Unfortunately, sci.crypt does not appear to be carried on any server to
which I have known access. Therefore, I am not able to determine
experimentally whether the technique will work.

Fortunately, the "flood" has not reached a level which would mandate much
effort--it is currently only about as irritating as a resident troll.

Peter


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Old August 13th 07, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon[_2_]
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:12:10 +0000, Larry Dighera wrote:

Perhaps filters can be successfully written to exploit these
consistencies.


I had this done at the server level, and it was no big deal. Any message
which met the criteria we'd identified was locally canceled.

There was another header that was common. I don't recall it exactly, but
I think it was "NNTP-Posting-Host" or something like that.

My fear is that newsgroup subscribers who are unable to filter out the
sporge articles may become so frustrated as to discontinue to
participate in newsgroup discussion in the future.


I suspect that this was more at attack on sci.crypt than
rec.aviation.piloting given the numbers involved. But your concern
remains a valid one.

- Andrew

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Old August 13th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Clear
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:
While I have not yet found a method of filtering out the sporge
articles, I have found some promising leads:

Each article is crossposted to the sci.crypt newsgroup.

The 'Path:' header field always contains:
news.isoc.lu!news.grnet.gr

The 'Subject:' header field always begins with a lower-case letter

Perhaps filters can be successfully written to exploit these
consistencies.


I killfiled sci.crypt, and it took care of it nicely. I've never read
that group, so I'm not likely to be missing any content.

John
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Old August 13th 07, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Aug 13, 4:01 am, "Kyle Boatright" wrote:
I'm seeing a huge number of spam postings in this group. I'm sure they are
from a bot, but since the address keeps switching, I don't know how to block
the messages in OE.

Suggestions?


I've noticed that a lot of other groups are fullyl moderated. It
wouldn't be a bad idea to nominate 4 or 5 people (maybe from around
the world for 24x7 coverage) to approve posting.

-Robert

 




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