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How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger



 
 
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Old September 17th 07, 04:25 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
Billiam Davis
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:55:31 -0400, Rudy P wrote:

I have a plane,not sure if on the ground. Please if others could check.
LAT.38.698404 LON.-119.037355 Rudy.


Here is a what a possible crash site, just outside the
Steve Fossett search area, looks like.
http://maps.google.com/?q=39.070750,-119.490250

From the news:
Vladimir Shenderov in Russia has found in in 2003 images the
possible plane crash site on the state border between Nevada and
California. The found object location (WGS-84) is 39 degrees 4 minutes
14.7 seconds of north latitude, and 119 degrees 29 minutes 24.9 seconds
of west longitude
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Old September 17th 07, 04:32 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
Billiam Davis
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:25:59 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote:

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:55:31 -0400, Rudy P wrote:

I have a plane,not sure if on the ground. Please if others could check.
LAT.38.698404 LON.-119.037355 Rudy.


Here is a what a possible crash site looks like.
http://maps.google.com/?q=39.070750,-119.490250


If you tilt this possible airplane crash site in
Google Earth, you can see it's near the crest of a
gentle slope where the white car-sized object
appears to have slid into the top of the hill from
the east and lay itself to rest on the crest of the
hill.

This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.

Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?
Or only Google Earth?
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Old September 17th 07, 06:11 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:32:29 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote in :

... This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.


Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?


No.

But each hit comes with a latitude/longitude specification
that may be cut and pasted into Google Earth for further
review.

Marty
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Old September 17th 07, 07:12 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

Looks like mine tailings, especially since it's on a road with several other
mine sites.



"Billiam Davis" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:25:59 -0700, Billiam Davis wrote:

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:55:31 -0400, Rudy P wrote:

I have a plane,not sure if on the ground. Please if others could check.
LAT.38.698404 LON.-119.037355 Rudy.


Here is a what a possible crash site looks like.
http://maps.google.com/?q=39.070750,-119.490250


If you tilt this possible airplane crash site in
Google Earth, you can see it's near the crest of a
gentle slope where the white car-sized object
appears to have slid into the top of the hill from
the east and lay itself to rest on the crest of the
hill.

This kind of underscores the fact you need to search
with some topography available to you.

Does Amazon's Mechanical Turk show topography?
Or only Google Earth?



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Old September 18th 07, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Billiam Davis wrote:
Here is a what a possible crash site, just outside the
Steve Fossett search area, looks like.


There are supposed to be some confirmed crash sites that have been found as
part of the Steve Fossett search. Does anyone know the coordinates of
those?

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
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Old September 14th 07, 08:26 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
Billiam Davis
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:10 +0000, miket6065 wrote:

2. Start Google Earth and Load the new GeoEye maps into Google Earth.
File - Open - geoeye-color.kml


Note the reference point moves slightly between the old and new
satellite photos and that the newer satellite photographs
have greater contrast.

To discern which photos you are viewing (old or new), you
can doublecheck using these recent satellite images of the
Flying M Ranch airstrip at location
38.61868951579681, -119.00016188621521
38 37' 07.282257", -119 00' 00.582790"

NEW SATELLITE PHOTOS IN GOOGLE EARTH of the FLYING M:
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?i...19d00m0vs0.jpg

OLD SATELLITE PHOTOS IN GOOGLE EARTH of the FLYING M:
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?i...19d00m0vs0.jpg

OLD SATELLITE PHOTOS IN GOOGLE MAPS of the FLYING M:
http://maps.google.com/?q=38.6186895...00016188621521

Note: Here is a good freeware DMS conversion program which
works better than the "dms" function in the "scientific"
mode of the Microsoft "Start - Run - calc - OK" applet.
http://www.mentorsoftwareinc.com/FREEBIE/FREE1198.HTM
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Old September 18th 07, 02:20 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:10 +0000, miket6065 wrote:

10. If you want, they also give you coordinates such as
"38.117852,-119.279851" which you can then go back and paste into the
Google Earth tool to look at the same location and zoom around using the
Google Earth software.


I think these are the three updated search areas (outlined in red)
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rchareanr9.jpg
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Old September 19th 07, 08:41 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Billiam Davis" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:10 +0000, miket6065 wrote:

10. If you want, they also give you coordinates such as
"38.117852,-119.279851" which you can then go back and paste into the
Google Earth tool to look at the same location and zoom around using the
Google Earth software.


I think these are the three updated search areas (outlined in red)
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rchareanr9.jpg


I noticed tonight the Mechanical Turk site has added two more areas of
GeoEye imagery, to the west and south of the earlier three. Lots of cloud
cover in the one to the west, and some large registration errors (1500 feet
at one point I checked). These seem to be the areas where the latest HITS
are located.

John


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Old September 28th 07, 11:21 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger


One wonders why it took three weeks for this information to surface:

FRESH CLUES REVIVE FOSSETT SEARCH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196230)
Search crews looking for adventurer Steve Fossett, who vanished
while on a pleasure flight more than three weeks ago, now are
working with fresh leads provided by the U.S. Air Force, the
Associated Press

(http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...vefossett.html)
reported on Wednesday. An analysis of radar and satellite images
has picked up what might be the track that Fossett flew. "It gives
us an idea, if it's him, what direction he was going," Gary Derks,
the state official in charge of the search, told the AP. Derks
said the new search area stretches about 100 miles to the
southeast from the Flying M Ranch, where Fossett took off on Sept.
3, crossing remote areas of Nevada and approaching Death Valley
National Park in California. "There's nothing definite, nothing
concrete," Derks said. "These are just some hits that we want to
track."
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196230
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Old September 12th 07, 04:27 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,sci.geo.satellite-nav,rec.aviation.piloting
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Default How to search on the Internet for Steve Fossett's Citabria taildragger

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:55:25 -0400, Some Other Guy wrote:

According to www.stevefossett.com:

The aircraft's last confirmed position on Monday (3 September) at
approximately 10:30 A.M. local time showed Steve west of Powell Canyon
(south of Walker Lake and southwest of Hawthorne), proceeding east
towards the canyon.

The geoeye-color.kml doesn't cover any of this area...


I have no explanation.
All the information I've read is from Amazon Turk and from the STeve
Fossett web site.

ANyone else have any answer to this enigma?

BTW, does anyone know the GPS coordinates of the AIRFIELD where Steve
Fossett took off from. If he is to be found, we'd need to START at that
airfield and then do successive radius loops around from there.

Where did he take off from? Yes, I know it's a ranch owned by Hilton, but,
do we have coordinates or a google-able address?

 




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