T-33 Down

Of course, US civil aircraft (which is what this was) are not
allowed to have ejection seats (IIRC). Can anyone with more
current knowledge advise?


when I was working on T-33s and other jets, this came up, and this was my
answer.When the FAA asks, yes sir, the seat is cold and the tanks are on and
bolted. As soon as he was out of sight, the charges would be put in the seat
and the the tank made jettisonable. My reasoning is, why should a convict on
death row have more chances to save his life than a pilot flying a jet warbird
?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

You can get L-39s with hot seats also.

Dale wrote in message ...
In article ,
Alan Minyard wrote:



Of course, US civil aircraft (which is what this was) are not
allowed to have ejection seats (IIRC). Can anyone with more
current knowledge advise?


Says who? The Collings Foundation F4 Phantom has live ejection seats.

Says who? The Collings Foundation F4 Phantom has live ejection seats.



The T-33 I flew had hot seats.
-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
American*

On 05 Nov 2003 00:21:13 GMT, (N329DF) wrote:

Of course, US civil aircraft (which is what this was) are not
allowed to have ejection seats (IIRC). Can anyone with more
current knowledge advise?


when I was working on T-33s and other jets, this came up, and this was my
answer.When the FAA asks, yes sir, the seat is cold and the tanks are on and
bolted. As soon as he was out of sight, the charges would be put in the seat
and the the tank made jettisonable. My reasoning is, why should a convict on
death row have more chances to save his life than a pilot flying a jet warbird
?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

So, at least technically they are not allowed to be armed, or
"armed capable"

I *really* like that attitude. We certainly do not need
more govt. ;-)

Al Minyard

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
"Dudley Henriques" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:

So this little dippy is your DC connection Henriques?

Bwahahahahahaha

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...

So, at least technically they are not allowed to be armed, or
"armed capable"

I *really* like that attitude. We certainly do not need
more govt. ;-)

IIRC, here in Oz, it's not only allowed, but encouraged and I *think*
it's *required* for some
warbirds under some circumstances.

The CO

A while back there was a T-38 for sale in Trade-A-Plane and one of the features
was 'hot' seats.

-- Charlie Springer

IIRC the issue with ejection seats is that they must be inspected regularly,
as the military specs call for. This is a very expensive proposition and
there are few shops that do it. If they can't be inspected and certified,
the FAA requires they be inerted.
--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Regnirps" wrote in message
...
A while back there was a T-38 for sale in Trade-A-Plane and one of the
features
was 'hot' seats.

-- Charlie Springer

"Les Matheson" wrote:

IIRC the issue with ejection seats is that they must be inspected regularly,
as the military specs call for. This is a very expensive proposition and
there are few shops that do it. If they can't be inspected and certified,
the FAA requires they be inerted.

Thanks Les...I was just going to ask why this requirement was
made.

But isn't that just as any other system requirement?...the a/c
must have to be maintained and inspected right?. Seems to me that
the FAA is merely giving the owners an 'out' so as to circumvent
a very costly inspection right?.
--

-Gord.

Alan Minyard wrote:

On 05 Nov 2003 00:21:13 GMT, (N329DF) wrote:

Of course, US civil aircraft (which is what this was) are not
allowed to have ejection seats (IIRC). Can anyone with more
current knowledge advise?


when I was working on T-33s and other jets, this came up, and this was my
answer.When the FAA asks, yes sir, the seat is cold and the tanks are on and
bolted. As soon as he was out of sight, the charges would be put in the seat
and the the tank made jettisonable. My reasoning is, why should a convict on
death row have more chances to save his life than a pilot flying a jet warbird
?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

So, at least technically they are not allowed to be armed, or
"armed capable"

I *really* like that attitude. We certainly do not need
more govt. ;-)

Al Minyard

I understand that ejection seats 'are' allowed but that they
'must' be inspected and maintained in strict accordance with
certain rules. This is a 'very' costly procedure and can only be
performed by a very few qualified companies. Therefore, the FAA
allows civvy owners to remove them if desired. If you want the
protection then you pay the piper.

Seems quite reasonable to me.

Or am I in error?
--

-Gord.