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Old October 27th 07, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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muff528 wrote:
That would be Bill Pogue's airplane. Bill flew the slot and solo in the
100 from 55 through 57.


Yes, I've since learned that he later became a Skylab astronaut.

Bill flew on Jax Broughton's (Thud Ridge) F100 team. Jax is still alive
and well the last I heard. He recovered from a heart attack last year and
is out in California recovering. We shared a few emails as of early this
year.


I've recently had the honor and pleasure of meeting a former F-105 pilot who
shared a few stories with me. He also gave me a very interesting DVD which
basically was a documentary of the Thud during VietNam. If I remember
correctly
his name was Morgan. I'm sure you and he knew some of the same people.

Tony P.


Could be at that. :-))

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Old October 27th 07, 04:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Richard Riley wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:55 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:


Some of the best shows with the teams were during the early days when
out of restrictive airspace.
The Thunderbirds did one at Okinawa in the F100's that had Herman Salmon
flying the solo out over the ocean where he was "forgotten" by the
crowd; (all air force and AF civilian base personnel)
The Diamond sequenced with the Diamond Roll and exited the show line.
Fish timed the entry exactly right. He came in low from the ocean 90
degrees in back and behind the crowd. He timed it to go supersonic just
as he crossed over their heads at about 500 feet. It was like a cannon
went off. Nearly everybody hit the ground flat as he passed over them.
They were taken completely by surprise. Nobody knew he was coming!
To this day, they talk about Fish's super pass at Okinawa.
Can't do this stuff any more. I have to admit it's a lot safer not to do
it, but I'll tell you as well; there just ain't NOBODY ALIVE today who
was there that day who will tell you they would have rather not been
there as Fish "opened the show"
DH


One of my earliest memories is of an airshow at Pt. Mugu - it must
have been 63 or 64 - with an F-4 booming the crowd.

I surely wish FAA had a mechanism to allow a temporary mach corridor
to be opened at some airshows that are well away from built up areas.
I know it would take an act of God, but it would be terrific.


63 was Hoot Gibson's team. They did a big European tour that year. If
you got a boom at Mugu, that would have probably been Bob Moore....wild
man!!!

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Old October 27th 07, 05:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It was 1989 or 1991 and I was at Reno Air Races. An Air Force Combat Demo
F16 broke the sound barrier right in front of the Grandstand under a
cloudless blue sky.

Sandy Sanderson was MC and did not miss a beat, "Weather man didn't say
anything about rain today!"

Watson


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Old October 27th 07, 05:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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War Story

I had Current Ops in USAFSO (United States Air Force Southern Command)
in Canal Zone and there was one of the revolutions going on with
fighting in Panama City that threatened to spill over into the Canal
Zone.

We had a detachment of Duces (F-102's) deployed at Howard AFB at the
time, for a Air Defense mission, and I called the Det Commander and
told him to launch a pair of Duces and make a supersonic run at
minimum altitude down main street of Panama City, where a lot of the
fighting was going on. He launched and made the run and two things
happened.

1. The General chewed my ass out for breaking all the windows on the
main street (

2. The fighting stopped )


Sometimes you can lose and win at the same time )


Big John

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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:14:46 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote:

Here's a neat video someone took of a Blue Angel low pass (~25 ft?) over
San Fransisco bay during Fleet Week this year and the visible shock cone
seems to indicate it was traveling just under mach one:

http://jumpcut.com/view?id=C009AF727...89000423CF037A


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Old October 27th 07, 10:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kirk Ellis
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:55 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:


Some of the best shows with the teams were during the early days when
out of restrictive airspace.
The Thunderbirds did one at Okinawa in the F100's that had Herman Salmon
flying the solo out over the ocean where he was "forgotten" by the
crowd; (all air force and AF civilian base personnel)
The Diamond sequenced with the Diamond Roll and exited the show line.
Fish timed the entry exactly right. He came in low from the ocean 90
degrees in back and behind the crowd. He timed it to go supersonic just
as he crossed over their heads at about 500 feet. It was like a cannon
went off. Nearly everybody hit the ground flat as he passed over them.
They were taken completely by surprise. Nobody knew he was coming!
To this day, they talk about Fish's super pass at Okinawa.
Can't do this stuff any more. I have to admit it's a lot safer not to do
it, but I'll tell you as well; there just ain't NOBODY ALIVE today who
was there that day who will tell you they would have rather not been
there as Fish "opened the show"
DH


At the 2006 Jax NAS airshow I went to, Dale Snodgrass did a low pass
in his F-86 over the river headed back towards the airfield. While not
nearly as fast as a one of the Blues solo, it was an amazing sight
nontheless to see him a mere 25 - 30 feet off the water, below the
masts of many of the sailboats and looking like he was having a heck
of a good time. I did not record this, but my boat is in the
background a little closer to the flyby than where this video was
taken. It was definitely one of the highlights for a lot of people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYSUCWjRrc



Kirk
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Old October 27th 07, 11:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Richard Riley wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:41:32 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

63 was Hoot Gibson's team. They did a big European tour that year. If
you got a boom at Mugu, that would have probably been Bob Moore....wild
man!!!


I can't even remember if it was an Angels airplane or a Navy solo act
- I was 3 or 4 at the time. I don't remember much from then - but
that smoky, mean looking airplane left an impression!


Well, big and smokey equals F4 for sure, and it could have been either
team at the time. :-)

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Old October 27th 07, 12:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kirk Ellis wrote:
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:55 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:


Some of the best shows with the teams were during the early days when
out of restrictive airspace.
The Thunderbirds did one at Okinawa in the F100's that had Herman Salmon
flying the solo out over the ocean where he was "forgotten" by the
crowd; (all air force and AF civilian base personnel)
The Diamond sequenced with the Diamond Roll and exited the show line.
Fish timed the entry exactly right. He came in low from the ocean 90
degrees in back and behind the crowd. He timed it to go supersonic just
as he crossed over their heads at about 500 feet. It was like a cannon
went off. Nearly everybody hit the ground flat as he passed over them.
They were taken completely by surprise. Nobody knew he was coming!
To this day, they talk about Fish's super pass at Okinawa.
Can't do this stuff any more. I have to admit it's a lot safer not to do
it, but I'll tell you as well; there just ain't NOBODY ALIVE today who
was there that day who will tell you they would have rather not been
there as Fish "opened the show"
DH


At the 2006 Jax NAS airshow I went to, Dale Snodgrass did a low pass
in his F-86 over the river headed back towards the airfield. While not
nearly as fast as a one of the Blues solo, it was an amazing sight
nontheless to see him a mere 25 - 30 feet off the water, below the
masts of many of the sailboats and looking like he was having a heck
of a good time. I did not record this, but my boat is in the
background a little closer to the flyby than where this video was
taken. It was definitely one of the highlights for a lot of people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AYSUCWjRrc



Kirk
PPL-ASEL

Snodgrass started building a rep for low buzz jobs while he was in the
Navy. He owns one done in the Tomcat that will be remembered for a long
time by the Navy brass :-)
His work on the show circuit with various aircraft is indeed spectacular
and he seems to really enjoy the F86.

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Old October 27th 07, 02:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sometimes you can lose and win at the same time )

Ha! Great story, Big John!
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Old October 27th 07, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ...

Some of the best shows with the teams were during the early days when out of restrictive airspace.

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I remember seeing the Angels when I was a kid - they were flying the F-4s...This was before I sort of knew what to
expect, and when solo came in from behind the crowd, I saw a flash of blue right overhead and moments later, the blast
and roar. Low and very fast. I remember it well! Later that same weekend my dad took us to the Ohio State stadium (go
Bucks!) to see the game. The blues did a flyby at half time, and I swear they dove through the open end of the
horseshoe. That was loud! Nothing like the wimpy 1000' agl 'flybys' of today....



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Old October 27th 07, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kirk Ellis
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:02:22 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:


Snodgrass started building a rep for low buzz jobs while he was in the
Navy. He owns one done in the Tomcat that will be remembered for a long
time by the Navy brass :-)
His work on the show circuit with various aircraft is indeed spectacular
and he seems to really enjoy the F86.


Until today, I never knew "snort" was the one piloting the aircraft
in this photo that I've seen dozens of times. Of course the caption is
incorrect. Photo was taken from aboard the USS America. Not bad for a
Navy flyer....;-) But I think the pilot was really Maverick...



Kirk
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