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Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??



 
 
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Old November 8th 07, 08:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marty Shapiro
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Default Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

Bob Fry wrote in :

"MS" == Marty Shapiro writes:

MS It was the original airline terminal and airport
MS office for SJC.

MS You could go up to the observation deck on the roof of
MS the building and have a great view of the airliners landing on
MS 30L. At some parties we would go up there and "rate" the
MS landings. We could play the music as loud as we wanted with
MS no complaints! "Mile High Club" flights ran out of that
MS terminal as well.

Gee, I woulda remembered that stuff at that age.
The Lockheed club operated out of some nondescript building
away from most others.


IIRC, the Mile High Club flights were at one time advertised by
Thunderbird Aviation. I think it was a C-402 with the right side passenger
seats removed. They had a roll up feather mattress and supplied champagne
and, of course, two of Sporty's Mile High Club pins to the passengers.

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Old November 10th 07, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ThomasH
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Default Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

On 08-Nov-07 0:12, Marty Shapiro wrote:
Bob Fry wrote in :

"MS" == Marty Shapiro writes:

MS It was the original airline terminal and airport
MS office for SJC.

MS You could go up to the observation deck on the roof of
MS the building and have a great view of the airliners landing on
MS 30L. At some parties we would go up there and "rate" the
MS landings. We could play the music as loud as we wanted with
MS no complaints! "Mile High Club" flights ran out of that
MS terminal as well.

Gee, I woulda remembered that stuff at that age.
The Lockheed club operated out of some nondescript building
away from most others.


IIRC, the Mile High Club flights were at one time advertised by
Thunderbird Aviation. I think it was a C-402 with the right side passenger
seats removed. They had a roll up feather mattress and supplied champagne
and, of course, two of Sporty's Mile High Club pins to the passengers.


Great recollections! I appreciate!

I also remember Trade Wind Aviation (now RHV) and Air One,
mostly chopper training.

Let also mention the 98th Aero Squadron Restaurant (I hope
I spelled the name correctly!) They had the magnificent
"runway front" windows and even plugs for headsets at these
window front tables. One could listen to SJC tower or ground
and eat, back than it was a sensation. The building was
decorated by WW-I aircraft mockups, sand sacks covered the
passage to the restrooms nicknames Latrines, and they used
to play patriotic speeches from the period to lighten up
your private business. Walls were covered by hundreds of
images of aviators and pilots.

They have canceled the lease with the provider and demolished
the building. The land stayed unused for several years, now
there is finally one jet hangar build in this wasteland.

Old Squadron II tie downs are deserted.


Lets hope that you right about RHV. I reckon that you are
not a fan of Sunnyvale and Mountain View politcs :-),
but be it as it may, they are mostly not involved in
aviation matter, except for the potential of Moffet Field.

My friend will land than in RHV or in PAO. I fly now out
of PAO, SJC, these are just memories for me...

Thomas

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Old November 10th 07, 09:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

On 05-Nov-07 21:05, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:23:37 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
om:

On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

As long as they abide by FAA regulations, I suppose they are within
their right.

They can descriminate against GA by charging high fees. The FAA
generally doesn't prohibit that.


There is something immoral about using public AIP funds to construct
an airport at which a pilot MUST pay a private corporation for the
right to use what his tax dollars have built.


Agreed!

Well than, there is no landing fee, we have "merely a
ramp fee" and no matter what you do, you pay or you
take their fuel at this horrid price of theirs.

Thomas

You're saying that the airport operator (SJ county?) does not permit
aircraft, other than the one paying tie-down fees for a specific spot,
to park in rented parking spots?

That is very much true. The tie down is associated with the N number

-Robert


It would seem that the firm operating the airport is unnecessarily
exposing itself to potential damage liabilities as a result of
implementing that policy, but I suppose the lease agreement forces the
lessee to give up those rights.

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Old November 10th 07, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ThomasH
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Default Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

On 05-Nov-07 10:50, Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:29 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:26:10 -0800, ThomasH wrote

Maybe some of you know what is going on with SJC?

You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram:http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.


Unless something has changed you still pay the $40 for those. SJC is a
very GA unfriendly airport (the county figures you should be at RHV).
I once landed at SJC to fly another plane. I pulled plane #1 out of
its tie down spot and put plane #2 into the spot while I went out to
fly plane #1. When I got back there were two security trucks sitting
there with their lights flashing. They said there were getting ready
to tow plane #2. They keep track of what plane is in which spot.

-Robert


As my friend brought proudly his Lancair to SJC for the
first time, I was walking with him to the parking spot
with a camera to shoot his preflight and later the departure.
We sat on the bench (with is daughter who lives here now) in
front of Jet Center main entrance and waited for takeoff on
the 29er. One of the tracks stopped, well a Porsche Cayenne
rather, and a guy was complaining about my camera. I told
him that I fly here since 1996 and that I sure have 2-3
thousands of images of the vicinity in all sorts of aviation
related situations, she added that she waits for "daddy for
takeoff," and they soften up and left us.

I shot a lot from the air, everywhere. My images are even
on the 16R DVD. I was never ever before bothered by someone
because of photographing aircraft, pilots or personal.
This incident was to me very symbolic toward what SJC has
become, maybe even to the post 9-11 syndrome with safety
paranoia.

Thomas

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Old November 10th 07, 10:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

On Nov 5, 10:26 am, ThomasH wrote:
Hi:

my friend from SoCal complained several times that every
each time he lands in SJC to visit us, even if it is for
15min only to make a pickup, as soon he taxis to transient
parking at the Jet Center, they charge him $40. I called
Jet Center, but they decline to give any answer.

I do not fly from SJC anymore. For 6-7 years this was my
home base, I used to land on the old 30R and later on 29
literally hundreds of times, and this kind of news surprises
me. Virtually the entire general aviation, small piton
anyway, has been evicted and pushed away from SJC since,
but there are still some remaining hangars with small
aircraft. Maybe some of you know what is going on with
SJC? Is it true with the $40, or is it merely a Jet Center
rip-off?

Thomas



Its laughable to see the country club crowd moan about being ripped
off by private companies, I just can't stop the tears. Is there a
Paypal account I can contribute to, and help heal the pain ??

 




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