An aeroplane that can stand still in air

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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As usual, Keith tries to speak as an authority and is dead wrong as
usual. I have a demonstrator video of a Su-35 stopped in mid-air
(briefly) during a difficult manouver and there are plenty of others
who have seen the Su-37 do it too.

I've seen the Su-37 do it at Farnborough in 1996. It stood there on it's
tail stationary for a good 20 seconds before rolling over backwards barely
within it's own length and then powering up vertically. Very impressive
indeed.

Si

From: (Chandresh Prakash)
Date: 1/6/2004 1:13 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Hi,
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.

Thanks,
Chandresh


If you are flying an airplane at 60 kt IAS into a 60 kt wind you are not moving
forwards or backwards.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"B2431" wrote in message
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From: (Chandresh Prakash)
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.


If you are flying an airplane at 60 kt IAS into a 60 kt wind you are not
moving
forwards or backwards.


I've seen a Tiger Moth do this for about a minute during an unofficial
display, so it's hardly high tech!


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"Errol Cavit" wrote...

If you are flying an airplane at 60 kt IAS into a 60 kt wind you are not
moving forwards or backwards.

Actually, the airplane IS moving "in air" -- it is only stopped with respect to
the ground.

In message , Errol Cavit
writes
"B2431" wrote in message
...
From: (Chandresh Prakash)
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.


If you are flying an airplane at 60 kt IAS into a 60 kt wind you are not
moving
forwards or backwards.


I've seen a Tiger Moth do this for about a minute during an unofficial
display, so it's hardly high tech!

About 40 years ago a private pilot was fined for flying over Portsmouth
(UK) backwards.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

M. J. Powell wrote:
In message , Errol Cavit
writes
"B2431" wrote in message
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From: (Chandresh Prakash)
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.


If you are flying an airplane at 60 kt IAS into a 60 kt wind you
are not moving forwards or backwards.


I've seen a Tiger Moth do this for about a minute during an
unofficial display, so it's hardly high tech!

About 40 years ago a private pilot was fined for flying over
Portsmouth (UK) backwards.

I wonder what they answered when asked speed and heading?

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk

Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?

Sure. I saw a Storch hover over the runway at Pease, at an airshow two
or three years ago. Of course there was a NW wind.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

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and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

I saw this airplane hover in place at an airshow at Moffet Field:

http://www.worldairshownews.com/WAN/...n98/raven.html

I read that it crashed a few weeks later.

Jarg

"Chandresh Prakash" wrote in message
om...
Hi,
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.

Thanks,
Chandresh

"Jarg" wrote in message
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I saw this airplane hover in place at an airshow at Moffet Field:

http://www.worldairshownews.com/WAN/...n98/raven.html

I read that it crashed a few weeks later.

From the man's own web site:
"The Oracle Turbo Raven, powered by a 750 HP Pratt & Whitney PT6A-25C, was
the first airshow airplane to have a positive thrust-to-weight ratio. With a
performance weight of 1,900 pounds and 2,800 pounds of thrust, the Turbo
Raven could climb straight up, stop in the vertical line, and then
accelerate straight up again. Another of Wayne's favorite maneuvers in the
Oracle Turbo Raven was to power out of a flat spin without lowering the nose
below the horizon. On January 20, 1999, Wayne established a world record for
all propeller driven airplanes by going from brake release to 3,000 meters
in one minute and nine seconds. In April of 1999, flying a G-202, Wayne
broke his own world record for inverted flat spins by taking the world
record up to 78 turns. (Wayne asks anyone wishing to break this record to
add his or her turns to the top and not the bottom of this maneuver.) During
the EAA convention in Oshkosh on July 30,1999, Wayne established a new
time-to-climb record to 6,000 meters in the Oracle Turbo Raven with a time
of three minutes and six seconds.

"On October 3, 1999, one year to the day that the Oracle Turbo Raven had
been on the airshow circuit, Wayne was involved in a tragic accident while
performing in the Turbo Raven at the California International Airshow. The
airplane was a total loss and Wayne sustained a broken back and other
injuries. Thanks to the preparedness of the show's emergency personnel and
the magnificent staff of the Salinas Valley Memorial Hospital, Wayne made a
complete recovery. "

78 turns in an inverted flat spin?


Jarg

"Chandresh Prakash" wrote in message
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Hi,
Is there an aeroplane that can stand still in mid-air ?
I used to think that SU - 30 could do it. Is that true ?
I found no evidence on a google web/groups search.

78 turns in an inverted flat spin?

Most people would call that 'dying'.

Gordon