LibHawk Down

Apparently John Kerry used his sat phone and quickly received permission
from the world community before landing was authorized.

--

Scott

"Obama is a state-of-the-art B.S. artist who tells everybody what they want
to hear. Everybody loves him because they think he agrees with them, but
that's because he has spent his whole adult life not telling anybody what he
really thinks."
http://tinyurl.com/yok662

political crap snipped

Hey guys, wrong list for political posturing.. Lets keep it clean in
here and only stoop to calling each other stupid, or other terms of
endearment, on aviation issues...

denny

Denny wrote:


political crap snipped

Hey guys, wrong list for political posturing.. Lets keep it clean in
here and only stoop to calling each other stupid, or other terms of
endearment, on aviation issues...

denny

Good luck.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Denny wrote:
political crap snipped

Hey guys, wrong list for political posturing.. Lets keep it clean in
here and only stoop to calling each other stupid, or other terms of
endearment, on aviation issues...

Denny, having been accused many times in the past of having been a
self-appointed nanny for r.a.m., it's a real plerasure for me to be able to
unload that accolade into your lap. As I was often asked on those
occasions, when was the election or did I simply miss it?

The story did in fact have aviation content, evolving out of a forced
landing in Afghanistan due to weather.....can't get much more aviation than
that. The fact that there were three US senators involved is what made it
newsworthy and it's hard to mention a US senator without involving politics.

So, for whatever it's worth, just hold your nose and move on when it
inevitably occurs or as more than one female has been told (however true it
might be), if rape is unavoidable, you might as well relax and enjoy it.
Your choice.

George Z.

PS - I usually don't cross-post, but I made an exception in this case
because I wanted to make sure that you didn't somehow miss my response.

On Feb 22, 7:45*am, Denny wrote:
political crap snipped

Hey guys, wrong list for political posturing.. *Lets keep it clean in
here and only stoop to calling each other stupid, or other terms of
endearment, on aviation issues...

denny

Did Larry put you up to this? g

Wil

Bob Noel wrote:
I hope Kerry, or anyone else, doesn't think the pilot needed their
blessing to exercise his authority as PIC.

Kerry explicitly said "...So the pilot exercised his judgment...."

I believe Kerry has a commercial certificate. Likewise instrument, glider,
and seaplane ratings. And has flown since 1966.

I'm pretty sure he understands who had PIC authority and nothing in the
story suggests otherwise.

Jim Logajan wrote:
Bob Noel wrote:
I hope Kerry, or anyone else, doesn't think the pilot needed their
blessing to exercise his authority as PIC.

Kerry explicitly said "...So the pilot exercised his judgment...."

I believe Kerry has a commercial certificate. Likewise instrument, glider,
and seaplane ratings. And has flown since 1966.

I'm pretty sure he understands who had PIC authority and nothing in the
story suggests otherwise.

Just another blowhard who couldn't resist trying to smear someone he smeared
in the past even though the smearee isn't even running for office in the
next election. Doesn't say much for the **** thrower, does it!

George Z.

In article ,
Jim Logajan wrote:

Bob Noel wrote:
I hope Kerry, or anyone else, doesn't think the pilot needed their
blessing to exercise his authority as PIC.

Kerry explicitly said "...So the pilot exercised his judgment...."

I believe Kerry has a commercial certificate. Likewise instrument, glider,
and seaplane ratings. And has flown since 1966.

I'm pretty sure he understands who had PIC authority and nothing in the
story suggests otherwise.

"So the pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting down
there, and we all agreed."

I guess it depends on the way you parse and emphasize the words. To me
the "we all agreed" (assuming it's actually a quote) implies agreement *prior* to
landing.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
Jim Logajan wrote:

Bob Noel wrote:
I hope Kerry, or anyone else, doesn't think the pilot needed their
blessing to exercise his authority as PIC.

Kerry explicitly said "...So the pilot exercised his judgment...."

I believe Kerry has a commercial certificate. Likewise instrument,
glider, and seaplane ratings. And has flown since 1966.

I'm pretty sure he understands who had PIC authority and nothing in
the story suggests otherwise.

"So the pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting
down there, and we all agreed."

I guess it depends on the way you parse and emphasize the words. To
me the "we all agreed" (assuming it's actually a quote) implies
agreement *prior* to landing.

Not much to parse, IMVHO. The PIC appears to have asked his passengers for
their opinions, which is his perogative as PIC. If the statement had read
"So the pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting down
there, even though we all disagreed," it would (hopefully) have more
clearly indicated Kerry knew who was in charge of the flight.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

"The weather closed in on us," Kerry said. "It went pretty blind,
pretty fast and we were around some pretty dangerous ridges. So the
pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting down
there, and we all agreed."

I hope Kerry, or anyone else, doesn't think the pilot needed their
blessing to exercise his authority as PIC.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


This was not a civilian flight. The pilot did need someone's permission...