What sort of UL/LSA do I want?

There was an auction on eBay for an Avid Flyer that ended a couple of
days ago, That plane is the predecessor to the
Kitfox, and would, I believe, meet your requirements. The seller
claimed he couldn't fit in it as a reason for selling. He was only
asking $12K or so, and the high bid was a little more than half, IIRC.
The reserve was not met. Look it up if it interests you.

David Johnson

On Feb 26, 12:22*pm, wrote:
You're the Michael from the Houston TX area with the white and blue
TwinCo, right?

I am that Michael, but I live in Michigan now.

If so, then if you'd change your mind about a project you might be
interested in this Zenith CH-701 partially complete kit that's located
in SugarLand, TX and advertised on Barnstormers right now

I have done my one project. Never again.

It's claimed to be 90% done, which means it still has 90% left to
go ;-)

Exactly!

*You could finish it the way you wish, and get your repairman's
certificate for it in the process.

That's useless to me - I have my A&P.

Of course, you'll end up with much more than $20K in it by the time
you're done, more like around $30-35K

Exactly. And for that money, I can just have the barn modified and
buy whatever, without doing a lick of work.

Asking for 2 seats plus all the rest of your requirements is probably
not going to happen in a small experimental with that price
constraint, especially if you and your pax weigh more than 170 lbs
each.

Oh, I'm sure it will - worst case, I'll get a 2 seat powered
parachute.

Michael

On 2008-02-25, Michael wrote:
like it to be two seats, to be something that can comfortably operate
from a 1000 ft grass strip, and something with a relatively narrow
wingspan or folding wings or some such - it will live in a pole barn,

I wonder if there's a two seat version of this, which I saw at
Pinckneyville back in 2000:

http://www.alioth.net/flying/flying/.../swingwing.jpg

I don't remember it taking him more than a few minutes to pull the wings
straight and rig it. Perhaps someone recognises what kind of plane it
is, I've long forgotten!

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

I would talk to the people on the Light-Sport Aircraft yahoo group.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/

I doubt you will find very much with less than an 18ft span.
Cut the poles and put them on hinges so they can swing away to let the
aircraft in and out.
We have used this method on our pole barn hangars for over 20 years.


Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
See ya on Sport Aircraft group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/




On Feb 25, 12:34*pm, Michael
wrote:
I have finally reached the point where I can reasonably acquire a
purely-for-fun, low-and-slow kind of flying machine. *It's not going
to be my only one - I own a Twin Comanche that I use for travel. *Thus
I don't care how slow it is - I'm never going very far in it. *I would
like it to be two seats, to be something that can comfortably operate
from a 1000 ft grass strip, and something with a relatively narrow
wingspan or folding wings or some such - it will live in a pole barn,
and the doors are not wide enough to accomodate anything more than
about 18 ft. *Also I have no intention of buying new or building -
this must be something that I can acquire for under $20K in good
flying condition *and with plenty of life left in it (not a project).
Also no certified aircraft of any sort need apply - homebuilt or e-LSA
only. *It also can't be something that requires a crew of any sort -
it needs to be something I can easily pull out and launch myself. *No
balloons, no gliders. *Also nothing foot launched - it's not so much
the foot launching but the foot landing I can't take.

Now, having said that - I'm otherwise flexible. *Powered parachute?
Trike? *Three axis? *Gyroplane? *Any of the above would work for me.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Michael

On Feb 28, 7:52*pm, wrote:
I doubt you will find very much with less than an 18ft span.
Cut the poles and put them on hinges so they can swing away to let the
aircraft in and out.
We have used this method on our pole barn hangars for over 20 years.

Any chance you could elaborate on that some? I'm not trying to be
snide - I'm absolutely dead serious. I could knock out that sort of
project in a weekend if I knew how it was supposed to be done. If you
have instructions, pictures, a willingness to discuss it - anything -
I would much appreciate it.

I thought that I would need to put corner posts and a steel beam to
reinforce the cross member that would lose the poles. That's a big
and complicated project. Cutting two poles and putting in hinges so
they swing up and down is easy - if that's all there is to it. And I
guess most of the reason for those poles is because in high winds the
barn would come down without them - but you're not going to get that
sort of plane out on a day like that anyway.

Am I on the right track? What happens if there is snow on top of the
roof?

Michael

Robert Moore wrote:
Dylan Smith wrote
http://www.alioth.net/flying/flying/.../swingwing.jpg

I don't remember it taking him more than a few minutes to pull the wings
straight and rig it. Perhaps someone recognises what kind of plane it
is, I've long forgotten!

One of the various versions of the "Kitfox".

That would be Scrappman's Sky Raider:

http://www.ultralightflyer.com/skyraider/

There's one for sale on craigslist:

http://anchorage.craigslist.org/rvs/601921667.html