ATC Phraseology

Perhaps the Citation guy simply thought it might be "one four";
hearing only "four" he thought he missed the first digit and wanted to
confirm. No big deal.

"LD" == Larry Dighera writes:

LD I heard the following exchange this morning: ABC-Tower:
LD "Citation-XXX, ABC-Tower."

LD Citation-XXX: "ABC-Tower, Citation-XXX; say current wind."

LD ABC-Tower: "Citation-XXX, ABC-Tower, wind 150 at 4."

LD Citation-XXX: "ABC-Tower, Citation-XXX; is that wind
LD *ZERO* 4?"

LD silence

LD Citation-XXX: "ABC-Tower, Citation-XXX; confirm wind
LD *ZERO* 4."

LD ABC-Tower: "Citation-XXX, ABC-Tower; that's affirmative."


LD Was the Citation pilot's pedantic request appropriate? Must
LD controllers prepend a "zero" to single-digit wind speeds?



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On Mar 13, 4:43*pm, Bob Fry wrote:

Perhaps the Citation guy simply thought it might be "one four";
hearing only "four" he thought he missed the first digit and wanted to
confirm. *No big deal.


Perhaps, but that would mean the controller paused unnecessarily while
issuing the winds. There shouldn't be room for a "one" between "at"
and "four".

On 2008-03-13, Larry Dighera wrote:
Was the Citation pilot's pedantic request appropriate? Must
controllers prepend a "zero" to single-digit wind speeds?

We don't know what the Citation pilot heard, for all we know he heard
"Wind 150 at 4squeeecrackclecclick", and just wanted a clarification.

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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We don't know what the Citation pilot heard, for all we know he heard
"Wind 150 at 4squeeecrackclecclick", and just wanted a clarification.


Doubtful. If the Citation pilot had heard, "Wind 150 at
4squeeecrackclecclick", he might have asked, "is that wind 4*ZERO*?", but he
wouldn't have asked, "is that wind *ZERO* 4?".

It's most like that the Citation pilot heard it exactly correct and was just
making a point (incorrectly) and wasting everyone's time, including this
thread.

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
...

We don't know what the Citation pilot heard, for all we know he heard
"Wind 150 at 4squeeecrackclecclick", and just wanted a clarification.


Doubtful. If the Citation pilot had heard, "Wind 150 at
4squeeecrackclecclick", he might have asked, "is that wind 4*ZERO*?", but
he wouldn't have asked, "is that wind *ZERO* 4?".

"Bob F." wrote in message
. ..

It's most like that the Citation pilot heard it exactly correct and was
just making a point (incorrectly) and wasting everyone's time, including
this thread.


And making an ass of himself.