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Prince William got his RAF wings.



 
 
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Old April 16th 08, 11:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Cubdriver
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:29:10 -0700 (PDT), Denny
wrote:

Dudley, I am an ugly american that thinks the so called Royal Family
is a bunch rich hawgs feeding at the public trough over there


Well, Obama seems to have increased his family income from a bit less
than $1 million in 2006 to $1.7 million in 2007, and the Clintons
famously earned $109 million between 2000 and 2006. (By applying for
an extension, they have cleverly managed to boot their 2007 return
information past the Democratic National Convention.) McCain evidently
married a rich lady, as did Kerry of recent fame.

So it would appear that us ugly Americans have also figured out how to
become rich out of public service.

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942
new from HarperCollins www.FlyingTigersBook.com
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Old April 15th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Dudley Henriques writes:

I for one will share my sky with a man of Prince William's obvious
character.


So if someone has "character," he doesn't need flying ability or training to
get a pilot's license?

It's bad enough when people depend too much on credentials; it's even worse
when the credentials have absolutely nothing to do with the activity at hand.
Be a royal, get a license--no competence or training required. Your
sycophants will still share the skies with you, no matter how dangerous you
are.
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Old April 15th 08, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:

I for one will share my sky with a man of Prince William's obvious
character.


So if someone has "character," he doesn't need flying ability or training to
get a pilot's license?

It's bad enough when people depend too much on credentials; it's even worse
when the credentials have absolutely nothing to do with the activity at hand.
Be a royal, get a license--no competence or training required. Your
sycophants will still share the skies with you, no matter how dangerous you
are.


Your comment I believe is in need of some correction if I may :-)

Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.
Prince William's "character" as you put it, although at a very high
level, will in no way open doors for him to fly anything, or in fact do
anything, in an aircraft he hasn't been authorized by competent RAF
authority to fly.
The RAF has no interest whatsoever in losing either Prince William or
one of their aircraft and are quite competent to keep each in one piece.

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Old April 15th 08, 12:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.
Prince William's "character" as you put it, although at a very high level,
will in no way open doors for him to fly anything, or in fact do anything,
in an aircraft he hasn't been authorized by competent RAF authority to
fly.
The RAF has no interest whatsoever in losing either Prince William or one
of their aircraft and are quite competent to keep each in one piece.



Oh no, no, no. No one would ever allow them to do anything stupid just
because of who they are, now would they?

Er, well ... see
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._/ai_n13995635

E



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Old April 15th 08, 02:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

me wrote:
Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.
Prince William's "character" as you put it, although at a very high level,
will in no way open doors for him to fly anything, or in fact do anything,
in an aircraft he hasn't been authorized by competent RAF authority to
fly.
The RAF has no interest whatsoever in losing either Prince William or one
of their aircraft and are quite competent to keep each in one piece.



Oh no, no, no. No one would ever allow them to do anything stupid just
because of who they are, now would they?

Er, well ... see
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._/ai_n13995635

E




This accident was a dual flight, not solo, and as such is outside the
confines of our discussion. It also was not authorized.

The argument to make this incident unique to the Prince of Wales is a
stretch, as this type of thing has happened many many times before to
plain ordinary people.
The instructor involved in the incident was faulted which from what I
am reading, was duly justified.

This type of accident is not unique at all to the Prince of Wales and
has occurred unfortunately since time immemorial both involving flight
instructors AND pilots generally, when newbies are allowed to fly the
airplane and allowed so deeply into errors that the PIC of the aircraft
can't recover same.

The bottom line here is that although the accident was unfortunate, what
happened wasn't unique at all as applies to the Prince of Wales.



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Old April 15th 08, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

On 2008-04-15, Dudley Henriques wrote:
The RAF has no interest whatsoever in losing either Prince William or
one of their aircraft and are quite competent to keep each in one piece.


He is also a Police-trained motorcyclist, with a strong interest with
the Isle of Man TT. It causes some interesting problems for the police
officer who is charged with his safety while visiting!

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Old April 15th 08, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2008-04-15, Dudley Henriques wrote:
The RAF has no interest whatsoever in losing either Prince William or
one of their aircraft and are quite competent to keep each in one piece.


He is also a Police-trained motorcyclist, with a strong interest with
the Isle of Man TT. It causes some interesting problems for the police
officer who is charged with his safety while visiting!


One can only imagine the conflict some of these people endure when asked
to "instruct" the Prince on these endeavors. On one hand I'm sure they
want to do a credible job of teaching him what he needs to know, while
on the other hand they have to be sweating bullets to insure he isn't
hurt in the process.
So far so good anyway. I'm sure it doesn't help the "instructors" any
when they realize that William doesn't seem to fancy himself special in
any way and wants to go at these things head on like everybody else.
:-)
I like the Prince and I admire his guts and style. I also feel sorry for
him and the people charged with instructing him because strange as it
might seem, when you are instructing in things that can kill someone,
holding back in any way can actually make the endeavor more dangerous
than it would be otherwise. Trust me, I know about these things having
instructed VERY rich pilots on go-arounds in airplanes like the P51 :-))
I remember Vince Lombardi the famous football coach once saying that the
quickest way to get seriously injured playing football was to hold back
on a tackle.
For the Prince it has to be very hard learning things like flying and
motorcycling with his instructors over compensating to protect him.

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Old April 15th 08, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Dudley Henriques writes:

Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.


Which privileges did he miss out on by skipping 195 of the 208 weeks that a
normal RAF pilot spends in training?

Prince William's "character" as you put it, although at a very high
level, will in no way open doors for him to fly anything, or in fact do
anything, in an aircraft he hasn't been authorized by competent RAF
authority to fly.


Uh-huh.
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Old April 15th 08, 08:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:

Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.


Which privileges did he miss out on by skipping 195 of the 208 weeks that a
normal RAF pilot spends in training?

Prince William's "character" as you put it, although at a very high
level, will in no way open doors for him to fly anything, or in fact do
anything, in an aircraft he hasn't been authorized by competent RAF
authority to fly.


Uh-huh.


Please take your idiotic and biased posts to someone else. I'm not
interested.

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Old April 15th 08, 09:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,uk.rec.aviation
george
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Default Prince William got his RAF wings.

On Apr 16, 6:51 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
Prince William has no solo flying privileges he hasn't earned, and any
flying he might do now or in the future I'm quite certain will be
conducted totally within the confines of his level of demonstrated
competence.


Which privileges did he miss out on by skipping 195 of the 208 weeks that a
normal RAF pilot spends in training?



Jealousy rears its ignorant head ..


 




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