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On May 22, 7:51 pm, CLewis95 wrote:
On May 22, 12:43 pm, danlj wrote: Dear List, From time to time a pilot is broken or totalled because assembly was in some way incomplete. I'm simply writing to remind us all not to permit ourselves to be involved in conversation, however well- intended, during assembly. This is motivated by the fact that I discovered that the wing root tape IS sufficient to hold the right wing onto a Ventus when the main spar pin is not fully engaged. This discovery was sufficiently humiliating that I have waited for a few days to confess. The hookups of the Ventus are brain-dead simple and foolproof, except that the locking pins really do need to be engaged. Sometimes I have forgotten to pull off the wing-root tape before trying to remove the wings during disassembly, which has sparked one of those random fantastical thoughts, "I wonder if the main spar pin is really needed." I normally assemble completely alone; one day last week a friend came along to see the glider and wanted to 'help' assemble, and of course happens to be one of those wonderfully friendly, fascinating, chatty types. During the latter part of the subsequent 2-hour flight, I heard a faint low rumble from behind, making me wonder if the engine compartment doors had fully closed. After I landed, I discovered that the tape over the right wing root gap was still fully covering the gap, but the gap had widened from the usual 2mm to about 5 mm. I need hardly tell you the sense of fright and self-abasement this inspired. I immediately realized that I had failed to push the main spar pin 'home' - normally the sequence is to put it halfway through (into the left spar) to hold the left wing in place while the right wing is installed, then go straightaway and push it home. In this case an interruption to correct wing-taping being done by my 'assistant' caused this step to be skipped. I recall an old suggestion that pilots should wear a red cap as a signal not to be interrupted. But the signal won't be obeyed until it's learned. Maybe a more effective device would be to screen-print words on the front and back of a light vest to be worn during assembly, perhaps "DEAF" - or "Shut up (please)" But of course the real discipline is with us assemblers, to not permit interruptions, and to say to the first person who offers to help, "Yes, you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." Dan Johnson Thanks for sharing this Dan. I love your simple answer to the eager helpers.... "you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." After a while the eager helpers will get the idea. Curt Lewis - 95 We had a very talkative visitor show up at our club the other day, who approached one pilot in the middle of assembling his plane. The pilot just turned to the fellow and said, "I am doing things that my life depends on me doing correctly. I'll talk to you later." |
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Addition to safety concerns is "rash". My last glider fuselage
received an ugly scratch when a veteran glider pilot insisted on getting my attention to tell me "you should have been here yesterday". I ignored him, but he kept repeating himself, so I rolled the wing back into the trailer to wait him out, dragging the wing cradle bolt along the fuselage as I did so. I was not pleased. |
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On 23 May, 00:51, CLewis95 wrote:
I love your simple answer to the eager helpers.... "you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." *After a while the eager helpers will get the idea. I like having eager helpers. I can't lift a Pirat centre section on my own, and I can say to them "Will you confirm that this control is on tight and that a small pin has popped out behind it?" Ian |
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I was always taught that if you're interupted in any check list type
of activity to go back to the beginning and start over until you get to a proper finish. If it is already assembled, you just need to check that it is complete and correct. My flying group is a very talkative and helpful group so we often interupted in assembly or disassembly, so this technique works quite well. Also on our 1-26's only the pilot installs and fastens the Turtle deck so he can check that all 10 pins are installed and locked before flight. JayWalker |
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Uh, that is scary... I've wondered several times while helping to put
together Schempp-Hirth planes, why the heck they've done the wing assembly the way the have - right, it's easy to do it that way, the wings just sit there when put into the body, but some day someone would forget the main spar pin... I think it would be a good idea to always (well, only when the wings aren't mounted!) let the main spar pin rest on the plane's pilot seat (back seat on two-seater isn't good enough if it's flown by one person ![]() A couple of days ago, the danish news paper Politiken brought this very relevant cartoon: http://politiken.dk/wm/article508875.ece - the text says: "Erik, I told you to get those wings checked before we went on vacation". ![]() Best regards, Morten Wartou "danlj" skrev i meddelelsen ... Dear List, From time to time a pilot is broken or totalled because assembly was in some way incomplete. I'm simply writing to remind us all not to permit ourselves to be involved in conversation, however well- intended, during assembly. This is motivated by the fact that I discovered that the wing root tape IS sufficient to hold the right wing onto a Ventus when the main spar pin is not fully engaged. This discovery was sufficiently humiliating that I have waited for a few days to confess. The hookups of the Ventus are brain-dead simple and foolproof, except that the locking pins really do need to be engaged. Sometimes I have forgotten to pull off the wing-root tape before trying to remove the wings during disassembly, which has sparked one of those random fantastical thoughts, "I wonder if the main spar pin is really needed." I normally assemble completely alone; one day last week a friend came along to see the glider and wanted to 'help' assemble, and of course happens to be one of those wonderfully friendly, fascinating, chatty types. During the latter part of the subsequent 2-hour flight, I heard a faint low rumble from behind, making me wonder if the engine compartment doors had fully closed. After I landed, I discovered that the tape over the right wing root gap was still fully covering the gap, but the gap had widened from the usual 2mm to about 5 mm. I need hardly tell you the sense of fright and self-abasement this inspired. I immediately realized that I had failed to push the main spar pin 'home' - normally the sequence is to put it halfway through (into the left spar) to hold the left wing in place while the right wing is installed, then go straightaway and push it home. In this case an interruption to correct wing-taping being done by my 'assistant' caused this step to be skipped. I recall an old suggestion that pilots should wear a red cap as a signal not to be interrupted. But the signal won't be obeyed until it's learned. Maybe a more effective device would be to screen-print words on the front and back of a light vest to be worn during assembly, perhaps "DEAF" - or "Shut up (please)" But of course the real discipline is with us assemblers, to not permit interruptions, and to say to the first person who offers to help, "Yes, you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." Dan Johnson |
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On May 22, 1:43*pm, danlj wrote:
Dear List, From time to time a pilot is broken or totalled because assembly was in some way incomplete. I'm simply writing to remind us all not to permit ourselves to be involved in conversation, however well- intended, during assembly. This is motivated by the fact that I discovered that the wing root tape IS sufficient to hold the right wing onto a Ventus when the main spar pin is not fully engaged. This discovery was sufficiently humiliating that I have waited for a few days to confess. The hookups of the Ventus are brain-dead simple and foolproof, except that the locking pins really do need to be engaged. Sometimes I have forgotten to pull off the wing-root tape before trying to remove the wings during disassembly, which has sparked one of those random fantastical thoughts, "I wonder if the main spar pin is really needed." I normally assemble completely alone; one day last week a friend came along to see the glider and wanted to 'help' assemble, and of course happens to be one of those wonderfully friendly, fascinating, chatty types. During the latter part of the subsequent 2-hour flight, I heard a faint low rumble from behind, making me wonder if the engine compartment doors had fully closed. After I landed, I discovered that the tape over the right wing root gap was still fully covering the gap, but the gap had widened from the usual 2mm to about 5 mm. I need hardly tell you the sense of fright and self-abasement this inspired. I immediately realized that I had failed to push the main spar pin 'home' - normally the sequence is to put it halfway through (into the left spar) to hold the left wing in place while the right wing is installed, then go straightaway and push it home. In this case an interruption to correct wing-taping being done by my 'assistant' caused this step to be skipped. I recall an old suggestion that pilots should wear a red cap as a signal not to be interrupted. But the signal won't be obeyed until it's learned. Maybe a more effective device would be to screen-print words on the front and back of a light vest to be worn during assembly, perhaps *"DEAF" - or "Shut up (please)" But of course the real discipline is with us assemblers, to not permit interruptions, and to say to the first person who offers to help, "Yes, you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." Dan Johnson I use a written assembly check list, laminated and attached to a clipboard. I check off each step with a red grease pencil. If by chance I'm interrupted, I have a written record of the assembly progress and know exactly where I left off and what steps remain. Rich Kiray |
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On May 23, 8:53�am, wrote:
On May 22, 1:43�pm, danlj wrote: Dear List, From time to time a pilot is broken or totalled because assembly was in some way incomplete. I'm simply writing to remind us all not to permit ourselves to be involved in conversation, however well- intended, during assembly. This is motivated by the fact that I discovered that the wing root tape IS sufficient to hold the right wing onto a Ventus when the main spar pin is not fully engaged. This discovery was sufficiently humiliating that I have waited for a few days to confess. The hookups of the Ventus are brain-dead simple and foolproof, except that the locking pins really do need to be engaged. Sometimes I have forgotten to pull off the wing-root tape before trying to remove the wings during disassembly, which has sparked one of those random fantastical thoughts, "I wonder if the main spar pin is really needed." I normally assemble completely alone; one day last week a friend came along to see the glider and wanted to 'help' assemble, and of course happens to be one of those wonderfully friendly, fascinating, chatty types. During the latter part of the subsequent 2-hour flight, I heard a faint low rumble from behind, making me wonder if the engine compartment doors had fully closed. After I landed, I discovered that the tape over the right wing root gap was still fully covering the gap, but the gap had widened from the usual 2mm to about 5 mm. I need hardly tell you the sense of fright and self-abasement this inspired. I immediately realized that I had failed to push the main spar pin 'home' - normally the sequence is to put it halfway through (into the left spar) to hold the left wing in place while the right wing is installed, then go straightaway and push it home. In this case an interruption to correct wing-taping being done by my 'assistant' caused this step to be skipped. I recall an old suggestion that pilots should wear a red cap as a signal not to be interrupted. But the signal won't be obeyed until it's learned. Maybe a more effective device would be to screen-print words on the front and back of a light vest to be worn during assembly, perhaps �"DEAF" - or "Shut up (please)" But of course the real discipline is with us assemblers, to not permit interruptions, and to say to the first person who offers to help, "Yes, you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." Dan Johnson I use a written assembly check list, laminated and attached to a clipboard. I check off each step with a red grease pencil. �If by chance I'm interrupted, I have a written record of the assembly progress and know exactly where I left off and what steps remain. Rich Kiray- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On May 23, 8:53�am, wrote:
On May 22, 1:43�pm, danlj wrote: Dear List, From time to time a pilot is broken or totalled because assembly was in some way incomplete. I'm simply writing to remind us all not to permit ourselves to be involved in conversation, however well- intended, during assembly. This is motivated by the fact that I discovered that the wing root tape IS sufficient to hold the right wing onto a Ventus when the main spar pin is not fully engaged. This discovery was sufficiently humiliating that I have waited for a few days to confess. The hookups of the Ventus are brain-dead simple and foolproof, except that the locking pins really do need to be engaged. Sometimes I have forgotten to pull off the wing-root tape before trying to remove the wings during disassembly, which has sparked one of those random fantastical thoughts, "I wonder if the main spar pin is really needed." I normally assemble completely alone; one day last week a friend came along to see the glider and wanted to 'help' assemble, and of course happens to be one of those wonderfully friendly, fascinating, chatty types. During the latter part of the subsequent 2-hour flight, I heard a faint low rumble from behind, making me wonder if the engine compartment doors had fully closed. After I landed, I discovered that the tape over the right wing root gap was still fully covering the gap, but the gap had widened from the usual 2mm to about 5 mm. I need hardly tell you the sense of fright and self-abasement this inspired. I immediately realized that I had failed to push the main spar pin 'home' - normally the sequence is to put it halfway through (into the left spar) to hold the left wing in place while the right wing is installed, then go straightaway and push it home. In this case an interruption to correct wing-taping being done by my 'assistant' caused this step to be skipped. I recall an old suggestion that pilots should wear a red cap as a signal not to be interrupted. But the signal won't be obeyed until it's learned. Maybe a more effective device would be to screen-print words on the front and back of a light vest to be worn during assembly, perhaps �"DEAF" - or "Shut up (please)" But of course the real discipline is with us assemblers, to not permit interruptions, and to say to the first person who offers to help, "Yes, you can help by preventing anyone from talking to me until this is done." Dan Johnson I use a written assembly check list, laminated and attached to a clipboard. I check off each step with a red grease pencil. �If by chance I'm interrupted, I have a written record of the assembly progress and know exactly where I left off and what steps remain. Rich Kiray- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - One thing I did when I owned my Ventus was I would clip the main safety pin on the boom mike. You shouldn't be taking off if that thing was hanging in front of your face! |
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I use a written assembly check list, laminated and attached to a
clipboard. I check off each step with a red grease pencil. *If by chance I'm interrupted, I have a written record of the assembly progress and know exactly where I left off and what steps remain. Rich Kiray- I like this approach. As I've noted here before, I have a written checklist, two columns of items in various stages from "assembly" to "grid" to "pre-launch", with a separate section for contest-specific items (task sheet, retrieve number, etc.). They're organized so I can start in the wing carrythrough area then move to the instruments then under the fuselage to the right wing, tail, left wing., etc. I shared it with ex F-14 Navy pilot Bif Huss in Cordele last week and he had some good suggestions from his own checklists based on military pilot practices. I'm waiting to get his consolidated version back. Checklists are deceptively simple stuff but there are so many things that have to be attended to before we fly that I haven't trusted my memory in many years. During a contest, I actually check each item off: a vertical mark one day, then a horizontal mark the next, a circle the next, etc. (uses less paper that way; a laminated card and grease pencil would be better, but I keep adding to the checklist). Just so I can see at a glance what I've missed. That gives me the comfort of stopping in the middle of the sequence to do something else (including chatting) or skipping past an item knowing I'll see it later and come back to it. For local flights, I'm more inclined to eyeball each item. Every glider is different and pilots have different requiremnents, but here's my list in plain text format. Please post your additions/ comments. It's been a while since we did this on RAS. Chip Bearden ASW 24 "JB" USA ASSEMBLY ( * Critical Assembly Check) ___ * Main Pins Safetied ___ ELT Armed ___ Main Battery Installed/Checked ___ Tail Battery Installed/Checked ___ Radio Checked ___ LNAV Checked ___ GPS-NAV Installed/Checked ___ Pocket NAV Installed w/ Flash Card ___ Garmin GPS Receiver Installed/Cleared ___ Extra Batteries ___ Altimeter Set ___ Drinking Water Loaded ___ Parachute/Lumbar Cushion In ___ Relief System OK ___ Tire Pressure 35 psi ___ Landing Gear Doors/Springs OK ___ Tow Release Checked ___ Left Wing: Wing Root Taped ___ * Winglet Installed ___ Zig-zag Tape OK ___ Mylar Seals OK ___ Aileron Drive OK ___ Rear Static Ports Clear ___ Multi Probe Installed ___ * Tail Bolt Installed ___ Tail Taped ___ Tail Wheel 35 psi ___ Elevator/Rudder: Mylar Seals OK ___ Zig-zag Tape OK ___ Rudder Cable Attachments OK ___ Right Wing: Zig-zag Tape OK ___ Mylar Seals OK ___ Aileron Drive OK ___ * Winglet Installed ___ Wing Root Taped ___ Wings Washed ___ Fuselage/Tail Washed ___ Canopy Clean ___ Water Ballast Filled/Valves OK ___ Oxygen Bottle Filled/Installed ___ Oxygen Canula Installed GRID ___ Sunglasses (dark) ___ Sunglasses (light) ___ Glasses ___ Glasses - Reading ___ Map ___ Food ___ External Catheter ___ Cell Phone ___ Hat ___ Wallet Stowed in Cockpit ___ Final Glide Calculator ___ Pencil/Pen ___ Cleaning Cloth ___ Flying Glove ___ Flying Clothes/Boots ___ Landout Jacket Stowed ___ Telephone Coins ___ Tie Down Stakes/Ropes ___ TOST Adapter/Rope ___ Survival Kit & Flashlight TASK CHECK ___ Task Sheet ___ Turnpoint List ___ Radio Frequencies Stored in Radio Memory ___ Landing Card with Contest Phone Number ___ Map (with course marked) Pocket NAV ___ Altitude set ___ Task set PRE TAKEOFF ___ * POSITIVE CONTROL CHECK ___ Tail Dolly Off ___ Radio On ___ LNAV/GPS-NAV On ___ Pocket NAV On ___ Garmin GPS On ___ Wind Direction Checked ___ Air Vents Adjusted ___ Oxygen: Connected/Valve Open IN COCKPIT ___ Altimeter Set ___ Belts Fastened ___ Cable ___ Controls Checked Positively ___ Canopy Down and Locked ___ Dive Brakes Closed and Locked (Dive Brakes Out for Takeoff) _______________________________ LANDOUT ___ GPS-NAV trace transferred ___ LNAV/GPS-NAV/Pocket NAV Off ___ Pocket NAV in pocket ___ Garmin GPS in pocket ___ ELT Off ___ Wallet In Pocket ___ Lat./Long. ___ Retrieve Telephone Number ___ Cell Phone in Pocket ___ Glider Secured ___ Static Ports Taped (loosely!) ___ Multi Probe Stowed/Port Taped ___ Landing Card Filled Out ___ Retrieve Directions ___ REMOVE PROBE/PORT TAPE TRAILER HOOK UP ___ Wingstands Loaded ___ Top Latched and Safetied ___ Tie Down Ropes Removed ___ Front Door Latched Securely ___ Hitch Locked on 2" (NOT 1 7/8") Ball/Checked ___ Dolly Wheel Stowed ___ Safety Chain Connected ___ Breakaway Wire Connected ___ Lights Connected and Checked ___ HAND BRAKE OFF ! ! ! ___ Tires OK ___ Watch Out For Tie Down Stakes ! |
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