IDF-Apache firing missiles on 67yr old civilian in wheelchair- at Sabra mosque in Gaza...

In us.military.army Oelewapper wrote:

And what about the countries that are supplying and financing those
governments that are responsible for these "evil" state-sponsored - yet IMHO
completely unlawful - brutalities ??

I believe there are (disregarded) American laws which prohibit supplying
military hardware to countries actively involved in war crimes.


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"Oelewapper" wrote in message
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Admittedly, I am not very familiar with this particular kind of issues in
military aviation, but how can it be "legal" for the Israëli occupation
force to send out US-made Apaches, to launch a couple of missiles on a 67
year old crippled, half-blind and unarmed man, leaving a mosque in a
wheelchair after having said his dawn prayers ?? What about the pilot's
responsibility ??

And what about the countries that are supplying and financing those
governments that are responsible for these "evil" state-sponsored - yet
IMHO
completely unlawful - brutalities ??

Yes, how dare the Israelis attack known terrorists!!!

In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Yes, how dare the Israelis attack known terrorists!!!

How does Israel figure that a blind and deaf man in a wheelchair is a threat
to a nuclear power?

Yassin was little more than a figurehead, and like the pope, probably couldn't
dress himself without help, much less plan a terrorist operation.



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degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing
is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and
kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"
- John Stuart Mill

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In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Yes, how dare the Israelis attack known terrorists!!!

How does Israel figure that a blind and deaf man in a wheelchair is a threat
to a nuclear power?

Yassin was little more than a figurehead, and like the pope, probably couldn't
dress himself without help, much less plan a terrorist operation.

Actually, the best reports, from folks like the BBC, is
that he was the guy in charge, albeit in a CEO, not COO capacity.
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2) Don't let your mouth write no checks that your butt can't cash
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In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Yes, how dare the Israelis attack known terrorists!!!

How does Israel figure that a blind and deaf man in a wheelchair is a
threat
to a nuclear power?

You know, to me this sounds like the most bizarre line of
argument. Physical prowess aren't exactly important for a "leader".
It's not like FDR was going to drag you into an ally and beat you
to death either, but he sure was a danger to NAZI Germany.

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In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Yes, how dare the Israelis attack known terrorists!!!

How does Israel figure that a blind and deaf man in a wheelchair is a
threat
to a nuclear power?

Well, for starters the guy was a planner and mastermind. Those guys NEVER
do the suicide dance - they convince other people to do it.


Yassin was little more than a figurehead, and like the pope, probably
couldn't
dress himself without help, much less plan a terrorist operation.

A "figurehead" is still a viable target. Tell me that offing the Pope
wouldn't have consequences.

In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Those guys NEVER
do the suicide dance - they convince other people to do it.

Little convincing is necessary when you've had your arms broken by Israeli
soldiers at age 14, seen your brother kidnapped, held, and tortured, watched
your sister shot by a sniper, and then had your house bulldozed.

I'm a fairly peacefuly person, but if a party did that to me and mine,
I'd pull out all of the stops to hurt he and his - I don't think many of us
would be much different.



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In article _ql8c.3159$%w2.1454@clgrps13,
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In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Those guys NEVER
do the suicide dance - they convince other people to do it.

Little convincing is necessary when you've had your arms broken by
Israeli soldiers at age 14, seen your brother kidnapped, held, and
tortured, watched your sister shot by a sniper, and then had your
house bulldozed.

It's funny how you say "little convincing" when they have to send their
walking bombs through a fairly intense brainwashing session, then pay
the families of those bombers a large reward for having their sons and
daughters blow themselves up.

I'm a fairly peacefuly person, but if a party did that to me and mine,
I'd pull out all of the stops to hurt he and his - I don't think many of us
would be much different.

So instead of attacking the soldiers who had supposedly done all of the
stuff you list above, you'd strap on a bomb and blow up a bus, causing
the Israelis to come into the Gaza Strip and bulldoze your house?

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cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Does anyone seriously believe that if the state of Israel was destroyed
the Palestinians would not be in a savage civil war within a very short
time?

The only factor preventing that is the existence of a common enemy; and
even given that, the alliances are still very fragile.

Dave

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In us.military.army Ragnar wrote:

Those guys NEVER
do the suicide dance - they convince other people to do it.

Little convincing is necessary when you've had your arms broken by Israeli
soldiers at age 14, seen your brother kidnapped, held, and tortured,
watched
your sister shot by a sniper, and then had your house bulldozed.

So all of the suicide bombers had that happen to them? No. Each bomber has
their own motivations and circumstances.


I'm a fairly peacefuly person, but if a party did that to me and mine,
I'd pull out all of the stops to hurt he and his - I don't think many of
us
would be much different.

And your scenario only works for a limited number of bombers. The others
are convinced by people like wheelchair man to do the suicide dance.