Fighter Aircraft Alternates?

On 9 Jul 2004 19:39:43 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:

Robert wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:34:34 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:54:27 GMT, Robert
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 05:38:55 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:
The F-111 won over the Boeing and Republic for the TFX. Pretty much
everybody felt the Boeing design was the best but good old MacNamara
thought he was an aircraft designer and had a different agenda to boot
so they got the GD entry. Personally I thought the Republic design
looked the coolest.


Any links?


Hope you can read French because the English option seems to be
busted.

http://prototypes.free.fr/f111b/f111b-1.htm


Thanks! Not a problem, a picture is worth a thousand words... =)

aka: Republic-Fokker D-24 Alliance (1965)


Yeah Republic took their own design and modified it. Similar to the
F-16/ F-2

On 9 Jul 2004 19:39:43 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:

Robert wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:34:34 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 11:54:27 GMT, Robert
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 05:38:55 -0600, Scott Ferrin
wrote:
The F-111 won over the Boeing and Republic for the TFX. Pretty much
everybody felt the Boeing design was the best but good old MacNamara
thought he was an aircraft designer and had a different agenda to boot
so they got the GD entry. Personally I thought the Republic design
looked the coolest.


Any links?


Hope you can read French because the English option seems to be
busted.

http://prototypes.free.fr/f111b/f111b-1.htm


Thanks! Not a problem, a picture is worth a thousand words... =)

aka: Republic-Fokker D-24 Alliance (1965)


Oh, and just to be clear, Fokker had NOTHING to do with the Republic
TFX entry. Zippo, natta.

aka: Republic-Fokker D-24 Alliance (1965)


Oh, and just to be clear, Fokker had NOTHING to do with the Republic
TFX entry. Zippo, natta.

You're right since it was Fokker that FIRST proposed the D-24 Alliance
in 1965 to meet a NATO VTOL requirement. Fokker sought out Republic as
a partner but the Republic designation would have been either VAX or
VTX.
Although Fokker never built a mock-up, Republic did as the modified
TFX entry without the VTOL and British engines of the D-24.
I have a model of the D-24 and it is a shame the aircraft wasn't
built.

Rob

aka: Republic-Fokker D-24 Alliance (1965)


Oh, and just to be clear, Fokker had NOTHING to do with the Republic
TFX entry. Zippo, natta.

You're right since it was Fokker that FIRST proposed the D-24 Alliance
in 1965 to meet a NATO VTOL requirement. Fokker sought out Republic as
a partner but the Republic designation would have been either VAX or
VTX.
Although Fokker never built a mock-up, Republic did as the modified
TFX entry without the VTOL and British engines of the D-24.
I have a model of the D-24 and it is a shame the aircraft wasn't
built.

Rob

"Jim Thomas" wrote in message
om...

Don't forget the F-4H (McDonnell) vs the F-8U-3 (Chance Vought). Or is
that "too far"?


That's F4H and F8U-3.

On 10 Jul 2004 08:14:36 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote:

aka: Republic-Fokker D-24 Alliance (1965)


Oh, and just to be clear, Fokker had NOTHING to do with the Republic
TFX entry. Zippo, natta.

You're right since it was Fokker that FIRST proposed the D-24 Alliance
in 1965 to meet a NATO VTOL requirement. Fokker sought out Republic as
a partner but the Republic designation would have been either VAX or
VTX.
Although Fokker never built a mock-up, Republic did as the modified
TFX entry without the VTOL and British engines of the D-24.
I have a model of the D-24 and it is a shame the aircraft wasn't
built.

Rob


IIRC Republic design it's TFX entry, built the mock-up, lost to GD and
THEN was sought out by Fokker and the two of them Used the Republic
design for the starting point of the D-24. The whole story is in one
of the issues of Aerospace Projects Review.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net...
"Jim Thomas" wrote in message
om...

Don't forget the F-4H (McDonnell) vs the F-8U-3 (Chance Vought). Or is
that "too far"?


That's F4H and F8U-3.


Damn, my punktuaton and speling never wuz vere gud.

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:27:55 GMT, Alisha's Addict
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:09:03 -0700, Mary Shafer
wrote:

and any pix?

You can see the YF-17 and F-18, F-14, F-15, F-16, and F-16XL in the
gallery at www.dfrc.nasa.gov

Here's a pic of the F-16XL ...

http://freejigsawpuzzles.com/beta/be..._F16XL1994.htm

It took me a little while to get around to looking at this and solving
the puzzle. If you'd gone to the site I gave, you'd have seen the
same photo there.

That's a Dryden photo of the F-16XL no.1, taken December, 1994. See
the tufts on it? White markers on the black body. They're there to
show the on-surface flow patterns. They're how I knew it was a Dryden
photo.

Here's the photo in the gallery at Dryden:
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Pho...94-42885-1.jpg

Mary

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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer