On pre-flight inspections

That would be a pass for me!

I would stop right there......

For a friend here.... he passed on 3 spinner cracks on a rental 172.

One crack was 1 1/2 in long.

They (others) continued to fly the aircraft for another week before
the spinner was removed

Dave





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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:01:33 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:04:45 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

Depends on what counts as "significant deferrment" and what counts as
"pre-flight".

Which begs this question.

How bad does a wood prop have to be to cancel a flight? I was going to
take a flight in a DA20 which has a twin blade Sensenich W69EK7-63 wood
propeller. On pre-flight, the prop was chipped in several places, no
runs but then its painted or enameled white.

http://www.controller.com/images/Con...e/80614723.jpg

The edges were so rough I was concerned about catching a splinter. I
passed.

And you?

Gezellig wrote:

How bad does a wood prop have to be to cancel a flight? I was going to
take a flight in a DA20 which has a twin blade Sensenich W69EK7-63 wood
propeller. On pre-flight, the prop was chipped in several places, no
runs but then its painted or enameled white....

Oh boy, this thread is bringing the memories back - of a low level local
VFR joy ride in the passenger seat - and we heard a pan call on the
local frequency citing engine problems - then straight ahead, and
descending quite fast was a 4 seater - with just HALF a prop slowly
rotating - and down it went - under a power pylon at the edge of a field
- which had us on the edge of our seats - but it rolled to a halt, and
we saw two adults and two kids pile out. We called the home tower with
location and loitered til a police car or ambulance arrived.

It turned out a wood prop had been overtightened by a prestige big name
FBO at Coventry - and the facility lost their prop authorization on the
basis of that screw up.....

Brian W

On Jul 27, 12:41*am, D Ramapriya wrote:
Has any of you has ever discovered something during the pre-flight
inspection that necessitated a significant deferrment of your flight
plan or a cancelation altogether? Just curious, that's all.

Thanks,

Ramapriya

Well, I found a flat tire, lots of water in the fuel tanks (early M20J
fuel tank caps were hard to put on correctly), bird's nest in the
engine campartment that took a while to remove, pitot tube not hot,
bad nick in the prop. . . That's all that comes to mind with about
2000 hours TT.


Prior to take off I found a broken carb heat cable in an M20C, one mag
not working, Nav radio not working,

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight with
the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some folks
fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway with
flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good reason
to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after you do a
crappy preflight.

Vaughn

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

On another occassion I saw one of the twin engine air taxis, I don't recall
whether it was a Navajo or a C402, pull away with a rudder lock still in
place. There was no radio available and no way to get a motor vehicle onto
the ramp quickly enough; but the tower had a listed telephone number on that
field, so I was able to call them before he got to the runway.

Peter

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
...

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
...

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
...

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

--
Duncan

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:48:00 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
...

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

It is obvious that Vaughn is very inexperienced.

"Dave Doe" wrote in message
...
In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
...

I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One
good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon
after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

--
Duncan

It was a bit more than 25 years ago and I've forgotten the bit of trivia
that led to the error, other than the fact that I was only there to exercise
the engine and not to fly; but it was also a good illustration of why
maintenance operations need the same attention to detail and safety as
flight operations.

The cowling shape of the particular aircraft allowed a cable type lock to
remain partially hidden from view, when seated in the left front, and my
solution was to add a bright yellow wrapping with tassels--so that any
repetition would be obvious from inside the cabin and also nearly impossible
to forget on the walkaround.

Peter