We Are All Spaniards

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

Arabs fought the Jews and lost. It may be a tactical error, it may be
trickery,
it may be lack of firepower, it may be lots of things. But they were
there,
there was a war, they lost, they want it back.

Whether WE see it that way is one thing, but THEY see it that way.
So, how should I decide who's way of seeing it is "correct"?


Yup, they fought over land and lost. Had they won they would have pushed
the Jews off their land. Instead, the Jews won and the Arabs that
remained
on their land in the new state of Israel still have it.


Additionally, it was the Arabs that *started* that war, and did so on one of
the holiest of Jewish days hoping for a tactical advantage.

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Additionally, it was the Arabs that *started* that war, and did so
on one of the holiest of Jewish days hoping for a tactical advantage.


Yom Kippur? That was the 1973 war.

In article , pacplyer wrote:
The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

Ummm, speaking as a member of "the rest of the world", I don't hate the
US. Quite the contrary.

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Of course, all that is about as relevant as Spain, Britian and France
making their claims on their respective parts of the US.

Or the so-called "Native Americans" making their claims on the North
American continent.

Seems to me I read something about a "land bridge" from Asia?


Right, and I'd ask "A bridge to what land"? Land that was re-conquered every
other year for thousands of years? Land that was passed over every year in
transit? Hey...didn't they have deeds to the land? Why not?

I know a primitive lifestyle is attractive to some...but come on!!

Judah wrote in message . ..
To Arab terrorists and their supporters, Israel is their land, and the
Jews who control it need to be pushed back into the sea at all costs. It
was the promise that was made to them by their parents in 1967 when they
left.

And in their mind, anyone who disagrees with them is an Infidel who
deserves to be killed in the name of Allah. That is how they justify
murdering innocent people with suicide bombs.

So you see, if we sit quietly and keep our nose out of the other
country's business, it will only be a matter of time that the Arabs come
after us anyway. Except when they finally do they will be more powerful,
and they won't need to attack us in pot-shots like spiders in the woods.

You contradict yourself: either the terrorists want the control of
Israel, or they are after world domination. Hitler was after world
domination. The islamic terrorists are not. You seem to fear that the
rest of the world is like th US...
Don't fear, it's not.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Of course, all that is about as relevant as Spain, Britian and France
making their claims on their respective parts of the US.

Or the so-called "Native Americans" making their claims on the North
American continent.


Jay, quit talking out of your asshole! Its so much ****

"
To illustrate the long term of your plan, consider what would have
happened had we kept our nose out of Hitler's business during WWII. Sure
it's possible that he would never have made it all the way here and would
have just left us alone. Maybe he would have figured that the US was not
interesting enough to be a part of his conquest.

But if he wanted the US, and we had just sat idly by while he
Blitzkrieged all of Europe and Russia, do you think we would have had a
chance against him when he was ready to come up on our shores? With no
help from the Allies who we watched as he slaughtered them?

Highly likely that Hitler would have won. The only war the Americans have
won on their own was the Civil War.

Dylan Smith wrote in message ...
In article , pacplyer wrote:
The rest of the world hates us anyway because we have a very high
standard of living here and we are truely free to enjoy life, liberty,
and the pursuit of flying little airplanes.

Ummm, speaking as a member of "the rest of the world", I don't hate the
US. Quite the contrary.

Sorry Dylan,

I should have said "much of the world." Pays to proof read one's own
diatribes from time to time. ;-)

pacplyer

Martin Hotze wrote in message . ..
On 19 Mar 2004 16:18:08 -0800, pacplyer wrote:

Freedom Alex, is exactly what the sole remaining superpower says it
is. Unlike most Americans, I don't believe that everyone deserves it.

Freedom has to be earned.

I think a population has to be brave enough to overthrow their own
despots. I think Jay is right about random bombers. Kill them all.
Issue a new deck of terrorist cards and make those cards redeemable
for large amounts of compensation when they are returned along with
said terrrorist's head in a sack.

well, and who makes the list and who makes one a terrorist? CIA? FBI? NATO?
EU? Vatican? The mayor of Otumba, IO?

#m


Good Point Martin. I don't think I want any of those groups you
listed by themselves making the list. And it's true in the Mideast
that one man's patriot is another man's terrorist. How about basing
it on the taking of lives of innocent bystanders. That way, we could
include Los Angeles gangsters on the list too, who participate in
random drive-by-shootings for member initiation. BTW, I noticed you
left the UN off that list. Probably wise, since they move so slowly.

pac

Wdtabor wrote:

OK, I'm about done with the Poor Mistreated Noble Savage crap.....
Our people came here and in 400 years built a nation that feeds the
world and
touched the moon. We earned this place. It is ours. They fell by the
wayside
because their culture stifled progress and inovation......
Cultures are subject to natural selection just like species.

Making no statement regarding the general conversation here, I'd suggest
that you read "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond for a reasonable
refutation of your supposition regarding the relative worth of cultures.

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