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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
Roger wrote in
news On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:45:41 -0400, "Peter Dohm" wrote: "Roger" wrote in message . .. Seems the specific exemptions are fairly clear. Based on these, there should be no reason for fear to those going to Sun-N-Fun.- Hide quoted text - http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/article.../080320fl.html Apparently some of their collectors are placing a different interpetation on the rules. - Show quoted text - Trying to tax an airplane (or other vehicle) legally bought and registered in another state state would be in conflict with federal laws concerning the 'right of free travel', i.e., you can travel freely across state borders. They can no more tax a plane in those circumstances than they can an automobile, boat, etc. Not to say they can't charge user fees but that is a different animal. Hasn't the statre of Maine been doing just that? Harry K Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com My copy of AOPA Pilot was in today's mail and, as of press time, the Maine case is still going. Apparently, the Maine revenue department won't budge and the case is now headed to court... Not my area of expertise, so that's all I know. Me neither, but the AOPA online site is saying they are working with the state of Florida for a moratorium until after SnF and then rectify things . They seem to think (the way I read it) is this could be a big problem for SnF if not settled or a moratorium comes about to protect those flying into SnF. The problem I see on here is the guys are so hung up on Zoomn (and I understand why) but the problem in this case according to the AOPA is the state of Florida. Peter What do you expect of a state of which over 50% of the populace is of an age where they'll keep your balll if it falls in their yard? Bertie |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
Hey folks, I thought you would all like to know that the story about the
Meridian and Cirrus owners getting hit with Florida state sales or use tax for allegedly doing nothing more than stopping there is actually A REPEAT FROM MAY 2007! Here's the original story (NOTE THE ARTICLE DATE): http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav....4039&Dynamic=1 Okay - now - why is the story being rehashed at just this time? Any of you students of life care to raise a hand and give an answer? ;-) Oh yeah - and my suspicion that the Piper Meridian was actually a sale of a new aircraft from a Florida based company (and therefore reasonably subject to Florida sales tax) is hinted at by these quotes from that article: "... Piper is reportedly NOT pleased about the Meridian tax bill noted above ... We have a feeling that Piper CEO Jim Bass may have a few things to say, as a result of these recent events, since anyone taking delivery at a Florida Piper plant may find themselves with a tax bill, even if they leave the state right away and never darken the state's borders again." So basically the article all but admits the buyer of that ~$1.9M Piper Meridian[1] took delivery in Florida. No wonder someone well heeled enough to afford that kind of plane didn't try very hard to contest the 6% sales tax (~$114,000). [1] http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/mer...ifications.asp |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
Roger wrote:
Me neither, but the AOPA online site is saying they are working with the state of Florida for a moratorium until after SnF and then rectify things . They seem to think (the way I read it) is this could be a big problem for SnF if not settled or a moratorium comes about to protect those flying into SnF. See my post where I gave the URL to the May 2007 A.N.N. story. A.N.N. is basically rehashing a year-old story just ahead of SnF to cause maximum damage to it and Florida. It appears to this causal observer that AOPA has fallen for a sucker punch. Note carefully that their letter and complaint is totally lacking in detail or specifics. I wonder why? Somebody who is a member of AOPA (I am not) might want to alert them to this bit of rehashed "journalism". The problem I see on here is the guys are so hung up on Zoomn (and I understand why) but the problem in this case according to the AOPA is the state of Florida. I didn't know who "zoom" was when I first started reading rec.aviation.homebuilt (among the groups this is cross-posted to) and really have no beef with the fellow. But the criticisms of him by others did make me suspicious of both his critics and him. And it does look like the "Zoom hangup" in this case is warranted. |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
In article ,
Jim Logajan wrote: Roger wrote: See my post where I gave the URL to the May 2007 A.N.N. story. A.N.N. is basically rehashing a year-old story just ahead of SnF to cause maximum damage to it and Florida. Did it really happen or not? Apparently it did. Has the law changed to prevent a recurrance? Apparently it has not. Is a major aviation event scheduled to appear in the not-too-distant-future? It certainly is. Does this pose a danger to people who would be likely to fly in to it? I think it does. I think warning the aviation community of the problem is perfectly reasonable. A simple visit to Florida could cost you many thousands of dollars. Anybody tempted to visit that state deserves to know this. Should this story damage Florida? If it's true, I would say yes. I think the AOPA should give some serious thought to moving SnF to a state that's not so hostile to visiting aviation. More importantly, I think we should fight this trend fought tooth-and-nail while we still can. First Maine, and now Florida. Pretty soon, all the states will get it into their heads that they can enhance revenue by charging use tax on every expensive vehicle that crosses the border. Soon, all of us will be limited to flying our airplanes around strictly within the confines of our home states. So; is it true or not? The AOPA article looks pretty damning. I hope it's not true. What evidence do you have that it's not? -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
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Jim Logajan wrote: Hey folks, I thought you would all like to know that the story about the Meridian and Cirrus owners getting hit with Florida state sales or use tax for allegedly doing nothing more than stopping there is actually A REPEAT FROM MAY 2007! So what? -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
I ran into this tax scam in Michigan after buying my airplane there.
Actually the broker was there, the seller and buyer were both out of state. Michigan has a 90-day period, during which we allowed Indiana to have our money for fuel, hangar, rental car, etc. when we went to Michigan from our main home in Alabama. Also, more than 90 days a year in Michigan, you have to register the airplane. Not a big deal, $30/yr. But registration triggers use tax if you haven't already paid sales tax. Stan |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:39:06 +0000 (UTC), (Edward A. Falk)
wrote: Should this story damage Florida? If it's true, I would say yes. I think the AOPA should give some serious thought to moving SnF to a state that's not so hostile to visiting aviation. AOPA? What does AOPA have to do with SnF? And if you meant to say "EAA," well, EAA has nothing to do with it, either. Ron Wanttaja |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On 2008-03-25, Jim Logajan wrote:
Okay - now - why is the story being rehashed at just this time? Any of you students of life care to raise a hand and give an answer? ;-) Would you Zoom-bashers (and I'm not contesting whether you're right to do so or not!) PLEASE explain why AOPA is raising the same concerns, if the whole thing is just a Zoom vendetta? Zoom Campbell may well be a kook. Phil Boyer is not. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June) |
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