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Conventional v tricycle gear
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:u8Ick.18512$%q.3380
@newsfe24.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Well, yeah, but I'd rather do it with the tail down! Or your tail between your legs. Dream on, nominee. In any case, I'd disagree about being able to brake harder in the taildrgger. That's because you are incompetent. Snort! I agree that the nosewheel has a tendency to dig in, bu tif you have the stick in your gut that's not a problem at speed and near max braking is available. You didn't think so two posts up. Yes, i did, you just don;'t know how to read, fjukkktard. Braking that hard in taildragger is going to lead to grief! Bull****. If you can't fly one, rent a trike. And you know this how, luser boi? Bertie |
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Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2008-07-07, wrote: If you look at most tail draggers, once the tail comes up the prop clearance isn't significantly different than that of most trikes. You don't need to let the tail come up in most tailwheel planes, though. Taking off from rough/soft fields you're probably going to want to keep the tail low throughout the takeoff run. I won't argue that, but from what I've seen that isn't what happens with most pilots. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Maxie plays Battleship! again
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:y%Hck.18505$%q.12362
@newsfe24.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:OOxck.27073$i55.21912 @newsfe22.lga: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:Jwock.18253$%q.107 @newsfe24.lga: A bit like your pointy head. Bertie No dumb ****, it's about weight and drag, more like your fat ass. Awww, it's the "battleship" method of flaming again. You'd have to get something right for it to sting, fjukktard... And even then, I'd have to give a **** what you thought... Bertie Your ass reminds you of a battleship? Whooosh. Ah, but you do. Nice thing about lying, you can always have it your way! I'll take your word for it, k00k. |
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Dylan Smith wrote in
: On 2008-07-07, wrote: If you look at most tail draggers, once the tail comes up the prop clearance isn't significantly different than that of most trikes. You don't need to let the tail come up in most tailwheel planes, though. Taking off from rough/soft fields you're probably going to want to keep the tail low throughout the takeoff run. Which is probably the taildragger's biggest strength. A lot of control over your attitude and an ability to aply the best for performance at any given moment. Bertie |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Dylan Smith wrote in : On 2008-07-07, wrote: If you look at most tail draggers, once the tail comes up the prop clearance isn't significantly different than that of most trikes. You don't need to let the tail come up in most tailwheel planes, though. Taking off from rough/soft fields you're probably going to want to keep the tail low throughout the takeoff run. Which is probably the taildragger's biggest strength. A lot of control over your attitude and an ability to aply the best for performance at any given moment. Bertie You're exactly right, that make no sense at all. You sound more like Dudley every day. |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:11:44 -0500, "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net
wrote: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Dylan Smith wrote in : On 2008-07-07, wrote: If you look at most tail draggers, once the tail comes up the prop clearance isn't significantly different than that of most trikes. You don't need to let the tail come up in most tailwheel planes, though. Taking off from rough/soft fields you're probably going to want to keep the tail low throughout the takeoff run. Which is probably the taildragger's biggest strength. A lot of control over your attitude and an ability to aply the best for performance at any given moment. Bertie You're exactly right, that make no sense at all. You sound more like Dudley every day. maxwell I'm confused. which role in the troll attack are you taking? are you in the first wave of loons or are you the extremist that makes everyone seem normal? I've forgotten. I must hunt down the battle plan again. Stealth Pilot |
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"Stealth Pilot" wrote in message ... maxwell I'm confused. which role in the troll attack are you taking? are you in the first wave of loons or are you the extremist that makes everyone seem normal? You're exactly right, you are confused. |
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In article , Bertie the
Bunyip says... "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in : "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Yeah, soft field technique in a tike is just the same as a tsaildragger, but you can't maintian the high alpha down at low speeds. Bertie You're really stuck on that "alpha" word aren't you. You seem to use it all the time, lately. Used it for many years, fjukkwit. I think you have just been spending a little too much time with your nose up the lead dogs ass. Yeh, right, nominee boi. Voting is going well, though you're behind at the moment. Mind you,this is what you're competing with... http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Jamie_Baillie He's good, but you can do it Maxie! Go on boi! If at first you don't succeed... I don't think this will be his last nom -- "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds" |
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In article , Stealth Pilot
says... On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:11:44 -0500, "Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . Dylan Smith wrote in : On 2008-07-07, wrote: If you look at most tail draggers, once the tail comes up the prop clearance isn't significantly different than that of most trikes. You don't need to let the tail come up in most tailwheel planes, though. Taking off from rough/soft fields you're probably going to want to keep the tail low throughout the takeoff run. Which is probably the taildragger's biggest strength. A lot of control over your attitude and an ability to aply the best for performance at any given moment. Bertie You're exactly right, that make no sense at all. You sound more like Dudley every day. maxwell I'm confused. which role in the troll attack are you taking? are you in the first wave of loons or are you the extremist that makes everyone seem normal? I've forgotten. I must hunt down the battle plan again. Stealth Pilot Let me help with that... http://ddi.digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html#item8 The Invasion FAQ of A.S.T. Although not exactly a FAQ, this file is more of an explanation of why alt.syntax.tactical and the tactical-list were created. It also lays down the foundation for the structure, strategy, and protocol of USENET invasions. * Invasion * Each of us brings our own reasons, backgrounds and motivations into this scheme. What is important is that each individual brings into this their own brand of inspired mischief. In some ways it is completely innocent. In some ways it is completely destructive. Anyone can walk into alt.sex and post that pornography should be banned. Anyone can walk into rec.sport.baseball and say "baseball sucks". It takes unbelievable skill and discipline to cause a PROLONGED flame war. That is what we do. But it can only be done with talent, and numbers to match that talent. We only bring into the fold people who have the knack to use smarts to incite chaos, not stupidity to incite being ignored when people see a post and know what you're up to. To keep things running smoothly, Antebi is our 'moderator'. jpdavid was responsible for creating the mailing-list and setting up the initial newsgroup. Everyone is equal in suggesting and voting on invasion sites and other basic day-to-day workings of the group. Everyone here gains or loses merit only in the invasion arena. * Waves of Invasion * Flames and wars between groups are as old as Usenet. What we try to do is in many ways fundamentally different from what is or has been done in this area. After picking a site, we call for an invasion on that site. There are a number of phases to an invasion. Each person can volunteer for which wave they want to be in, but more times than not, it is a first come- first served policy. It is always important that no one jump the gun and go in before we have time to prepare and bounce ideas off each other. It's also important that people don't switch waves without letting everyone know. Flexibility is the key, as is communication. Typically, we use between two and five Waves of attack. Waves will generally break down into this kind of structu a: Reconnaissance (RECON): These people will go in early and usually set up camp as "friends of the newsgroup". They will become trusted and participate by joining previous discussions or starting non- controversial ones themselves. They will also act as "double-agents" to counter-flame the other waves as the invasion progresses. They key is building a bit of credibility. b: Wave One: Wave one will usually be what starts the flame war. Those involved in this wave can go on and each have a different flame, or go on and flame in unison. They can bring in a subject of their own or flame a previous discussion. What matters is that this initial wave will be the one that the invaded newsgroup will have their attention on. This wave calls for extreme subtlety. The quality of the flame MUST be at its highest point here. c: Wave Two: Wave Two will consist of tactics to attack the people who were sent in as recon and attempt to start totally new flame threads. The key here is that even if we attack a group of people restrained enough to resist our flame-bait, wave two will stir things up and get others to join in. d: Wave Three: Wave three will generally change depending on the campaign, but will generally be added to push the confusion and chaos over the top. Flame the recon, flame the first wave, flame the second wave. These guys are our balls out, rude SOB's. Mop up and clean out. Sometimes (usually with bigger groups) Wave three will simply be along the lines of a wave two. We will call for a wave four (or five) to be the balls out routine. We will sometimes add a wave or two because depending on the size and intelligence of a newsgroup. Miscellaneous Tactics: There are three other things that we typically use, depending on the sophistication of the invasion. LOOSE CANNONS are people who come in and act so strange and obtuse that it makes the rest of the flames look genuine. THE ANON SERVICE can be used to send posts anonymously. This is a good way to post and pretend to be scared of retribution. Only problem is that this is usually the first sign that a post is a flame, so it should only be used with a TREMENDOUS amount of DISCRETION. CROSS POSTING is also a popular method of choice by other flame groups, so it is important to Cross Post with discretion. If we can cross post to bring in other newsgroups to unwittingly assist us, perfect. If we cross post to suspicious newsgroups, our intentions will be obvious. * Victory * Ideally, signs of victory are the following: o Our names appear in killfiles o Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by us o Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup o Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin o To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin * Notes * Most important is the need to be SUBTLE when it is required. One misplaced post can ruin it for the rest of us. Those of you who have participated in widespread flame wars know the feeling of having a newsgroup going for a long time, then someone posts an obvious flame or something so far out of context, that everyone says to just ignore the flames, which eventually includes all of us. Blowing a flame war will occasionally happen, but if it could have been avoided with a little thinking, then it's not as excusable. We've got to share duties. Everyone should get practice playing different roles and different waves. It has been assumed that if you don't want to participate, fine. No one will hold it against you. What is expected is that if you don't want to participate you don't have to, but that also means that you wont go warning that newsgroup when an invasion happens. You will close your eyes and turn a blind eye. NO NEWSGROUP IS OFF LIMITS!!!!!! Another thing many people seem to be talking about are SIGS AND NAMES. Try to take on appropriate names. If you are on alt.rap, D.J. Trouble is not going to stir things up...if you show up on soc.culture.physics with that name, you're caught before your first word of text. If a Sig is going to blow your cover, lose it. Official Kudos: - under construction - -- "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds" |
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